I own a small workshop. Last Monday, I had to leave early and only the workers were at the workshop. They are 2 workers ,and very honest. I trust them very much.
They sold things with the amount of 250 pounds on Monday. When the time came to close up, one of them put the money in the drawer of the desk , and they closed the doors and left.
The next morning, I came and asked for the money, it was gone. They looked for it every where , but they couldn't find it.There was no sign for any break in or anything.As I said , they didn't steal it. But what I think has happened is that they left the place for 3 or 4 minutes, which they often do, and someone got the money from the drawer.I decided to split the amount. I would pay 100. The one who had the money would pay 100. The other one would pay 50.But this last one refused . So I said o.k but I told him that if he ever leaves the place again, I would fire him. He got so upset and left. U think I was right or wrong ?wt should I have done ?
2006-11-30 09:27:16 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
I respect all answers. What I need to know is "There is an older one who had the money with him. He offered to pay for all the remaining part. But I insisted that if the money was stolen from the workshop in their presence, then they both had to pay. So instead of having the older one pay 150. I asked the younger to pay 50 and the older to pay 100. The younger refused. I said o.k I wouldn't cut it from ur wage but if I ever see the workshop again empty with no one in it , I will fire u.
He got upset because of what I said and left.
What do u think abt this ?
2006-11-30 09:43:56 · update #1
IMO, I don't think you were wrong. I think it's very nice of you to split the loss the way you did. The fact that they still had a job after this should have made the guy greatful. I mean, even McDonald'sould fire you if your draw comes up $20 or more short. Good grief, if someone does a "gas and go" at your station while your working it comes out of your paycheck..you're a nice boss! I'm not sure if anyone here can tell you what you should do, but I think you were as nice as any employee could have hoped for. Sorry about what happened to you.
2006-11-30 09:33:02 · answer #1 · answered by planetnoelle 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋
this is a very difficult question, because, let's face it, enta keda 2ata3t 3esho! (u made him lose the only source of money he's got)
and coz of no real fault.. i mean, he shouldnt have refused to pay, but still, this is the punishment u give one who STOLE the money! not refused to pay damages!
i think a better solution would have been to force him to pay the money, i.e. cut it off his wage, and if he refuses, then HE should leave.. not that YOU fire him.. if that is what happened here, then i think u should give him a call or something in a couple of days to ask if he wants his job back, ON CONDITION he pays.. after all, he's trusted employee of urs..
i know ur not asking abt legal consequences but i'll mention it anyway.. im a law student and i vaguely remember something abt having to warn ur employee first before firing him for certain actions.. cant really remember what these were.. the point is, maybe what u have done is considered illegal.. however, it's not like he's going to sue u! but just so that u'll know for later on ya3ni..
2006-12-04 18:28:58 · answer #2 · answered by Stratomanssy 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
replace both workers they split the money ,or do the simple test let it go and then place a small amount on a desk or place that only a worker would see and when its gone fire the person working there ,,a pound coin or shilling or euro in a corner would be enough,, or ask one of them to watch the other ,and if he catches the other stealing the coins out of the corners ,,he gets a raise then tell the other the same ,,,,this pits them against each other instead of you
2006-11-30 17:34:16 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think the new policy I would institute is that at no time is the store to be left unattended unless all entrances are locked. The last person out the door is the one who's responsible for ensuring that the doors are all locked.
I think you are better off without the second employee. Let him go and move on.
2006-11-30 21:00:25 · answer #4 · answered by Vicki D 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I don't think you should of asked any of them for the money back, maybe you need to invest in cameras and insurance to cover any robbery in the future. As for the last one getting mad and refusing , i would of refused too, if you were a guest in someones house at a party, and a valuable item was stolen, and the thief was not found, would it bother you if the host of the party asked all the guests to give money to replace the stolen item? i think it would bother you. From the sound of it, one of your employees did take the money, but don't make all of them pay for his crime, that is just unfair. try raising their salary, and maybe they wont steal from you?
2006-12-04 20:24:57 · answer #5 · answered by deborah 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
One of your workers took advantage of you. Cash and checks should be under lock and key at the close of business. Trusting employees is one thing, but offering an opportunity to pilfer and have more than one suspect is not good business sense. There should be no reason to question loyal workers if reasonable safeguards are in place.
2006-11-30 19:03:50 · answer #6 · answered by navymom 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Honestly, the right thing would have been to make them pay for it, but you did a generous thing, which was very nice, and offer to split it. You didn't have to do that, and they should be grateful. Don't worry about the one guy leaving. You are better off without him.
2006-11-30 17:37:39 · answer #7 · answered by kristin1018 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think you were more than fair offering to cover any of the amount that they somehow lost. Regardless of it was stolen when they left the shop unlocked or if they took it (even though you don't think they did) they are the ones who had the money and are responsible for it.
2006-11-30 17:31:58 · answer #8 · answered by miserychick01 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
No offense meant, but this is my honest answer: I think you shouldnt've made the other two pay for you. If you trust them completely, maybe it would've been better, that instead, you tell the police, or you try figuring it out, instead of just making the people you know and trust to pay. I'm sorry if this isn't what you're looking for, but that's my honest answer.
2006-11-30 17:31:34 · answer #9 · answered by treerose810 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
your employees are not reasonable for stolen money, and even asking them to pay is WRONG. I too would refuse.
2006-11-30 17:32:40 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋