people are not illusions!!!?

Question

i dislike it when people bring up the topic of are we all illusions, is the world even real, etc etc. i'm not saying this because i'm narrow minded, i'm just saying that people should open their eyes and be like okay, i'm pretty solid, i'm here so that must mean i'm real. i doubt a whole universe can be created in your minds and that you can live in it forever. that just doesn't make sense to me...
i'm not saying that i doen't believe that abstract concepts such as math (b/c it does kind of exist only in your heads) doesn't exist. when people are like we're not real i feel like kicking them. it is depressing to hear them talk like that because who wants to hear that their life is just something imaginary?
if anyone would like to convince me to think otherwise, i'll be happy to reconsider/reevaluate my ideas

Answer 1

You are right and there are many philosophers who defend reality. These anti- realists are too lazy even to use their own normal understanding, IE, language. They attack reality in the normal understanding that exists among people, IE, language. A language that presupposes reality. Read John Searle, " The Construction of Social Reality ". In this work, he attacks the anti-realists and defends reality. People are not illusions!!

PS Mephistopheles, you have misconstrued the Copenhagen concept. Not just an observer, but the application of observational energy, changes wave /particle properties. This is such a common error that it is cliche. Rather akin to chaos theory misinterpretations.

Answer 2

You believe what you want and that is a complete answer to every challenge. Whether you are right or not is another matter. 90% of what we are sure is true today will be shown as false in 100 years time and perhaps sooner. If you consider that one of the most fundamental tenets of Quantum Mechanics - the Copenhagen thesis - says that matter changes from a wave to a particle only with an observer the connection between mind and matter becomes mysterious. Berkley did not think that anything existed without an observer and posited God as being necessary for reality. Whether we are or are not illusions is not something I would be too sure about. A healthy skepticism avoids too many errors.

Answer 3

Friend, please give others their freedom to have their views. You have yours and you are entitled to it . So, the others.That apart let us look at what some wise people say:

If you are having a dream , during the course of the dream you are convinced that what is happening is REAL. Your mind and body show concrete signs of you having experienced the reality. You sweat, you scream, you jump up.

Only when you wake up you are relieved that it was all a dream.Some people are saying "What if we continue to be in dream even now? If you can experience the apparent realities in your dream why cannot we think that the "apparent realities " that you are experiencing NOW could , also be a part of the dream? It is their thought and not an imposition.

But , deep underneath what they are saying is that in real life what miseries happening to people CAN BE considered a dream and when we wake up ( that is to say, seek deper knowledge) we will find that we need not have grieved that much. That is all.

Answer 4

It makes me crazy when someone discounts all reality as illusion. They make no sense. Their words don't refer. They act for no reason. I hate these people.

Answer 5

I totally agree!