get in to the trouble of digging the cement up. I also want to spend the least amount of money as possible. I also just want to use a normal toilet and no water pumps or up flow toilets. So I have heard that you can make the toilet raised by putting it on a plat form so you don't have to dig up the floor or use speacial toilets. So i was wondering if any one has ever installed a raised toilet on a platform and if it drains properly. I also want to install a stand up shower and a sink. So I was wondering if it is possible to have the bathroom raised without no special toilets and digging. And would I be able to locate this bathroom about 25 feet away from the main pipe in the basement which serves the upstairs bathroom since the house is a bungalow. Also the main pipe in the house is 4 inches in diameter so i was wondering if the sink, shower and toilet could all be tied into the same sized pipe which would run from the bathroom to the main pipe where it would tie in. Thanx
2006-11-28 14:20:00 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Home & Garden ➔ Do It Yourself (DIY)
Also any tips would be nice and I have heard the pipe should be on a slight slope for everything to drain properly also does any one know how many inches this slope is supposed to be? thanx
2006-11-28 14:21:55 · update #1
By avoiding all the inventions that make this easy, a raised platform is your only bet. Your main concern is the height of the ceiling. I am 6'5'' so I would have trouble with raised floors in the shower in the basemet. You are looking at raising the floor at least 8''. Build the platform so you can run the drains in between the joist towards your main stack. You want a 1/4'' per foot of slope for your drain at the minimum for a 3'' waste. You will probably be down a good 5 inches with your toilet flange by the time you get an elbow off it. They do sell 45 degree flanges and also short bend 90's. Figure out what will require the least amount of room. You should install some mechanical vents in the bathroom and try to have a vent as close as the possible to the new bathroom as possible to allow proper draining. The sink shower and toilet can all be tied in together. Make sure u put a trap on the shower though or you will be smelling waste otherwise. Do keep in mind though that you will need to slope 1'' every 4'. That is roughly 8'' as is, so if you can afford to build a higher platform and still have headroom, please do so.
2006-11-28 14:31:52 · answer #1 · answered by James C 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is possible to use a regular toilet but I'm not sure it's ur best answer. You as you have stated would have to have a raised plaform with a tank for the fluid and waste to drain to.... but here is where the tricky part comes..... you would have to invest in a sewage grinder and pump to raise the waste into the sewer line. I can't imagine that your sewer line is below your basement floor. In my house it is about 4 1/2 ft above the floor where it leaves the basement. your sink and shower could also drain into the same waste holding tank. They would also have to be raised. Last I heard for proper waste drainage (with solids) the drop is 1 inch every 10 feet..... too much or too little will not move solids properly. If you use a flush up toliet then the only thing you would need would be a regular pump and a holding tank to move the waste water from the sink and shower since there would be no solids too move. I don't know what the plumbing code is for hooking into the 4 inch line you speak of. There will have to be some drain traps to prevent sewer gasses from getting back into the house.... or perhaps the pump is a sealed system.... I am not familiar with them.
2006-11-28 14:47:42 · answer #2 · answered by forfun44a 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have been a plumber for a few years now and have encounterd this question several times, first of all its not that hard to take the floor up to do it right, but it is possible to put the bathroom on a raised floor but you are opening yourself up to water damage it s much better to take the extra step in my opinion!!! most important is making sure everything is vented properly and if not you should look into an A/V vent also known as a mechanical vent very important... the amount of fall on the pipe should be 1/8 of a bubble per foot if you have more than that then your liquids will outrun the solids and that is not good any less fall than that it just will not drain at all. you can run the entire bathroom in three inch and then cut into the four inch JUST MAKE SURE THE VENTING IS RIGHT!!!!
2006-11-28 14:42:01 · answer #3 · answered by hmwh_mwc 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If you aren't interested in spending a lot of money, why not simply design a custom camp potty?
You could use a standard toilet, set up to flush from an overhead source of water into a holding tank you could empty, or tie into the existing soil pipe, depending on the elevation.
How you use this area may determine the value of doing the job right the first time. If this is going to be party headquarters once a month, then I'd try to find a creative camp potty answer.
If you are, in fact, fashioning a living quarters, where the stool will be used on a daily basis, I'd suggest seriously regarding what the pro's here have suggested.
2006-12-05 23:44:32 · answer #4 · answered by Patricia G 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I concur with what another professional said,
it's better (easier) to connect to your waste by busting out rather then trying to flush a toilet up hill, venting is important as well. You can rent a large electric hammer drill for less then $50, bust out the concrete so you can get access to the waste. As supply is not generally the problem.
Bucket the busted concrete out to the trash dumpster, set up your new waste by tying in appropriately. Check the drop/slope of your new waste make sure you have good drop. You could opt to have a "pro" do the plumbing and you do the concrete duty.
I hate cleaning poo of the floor because of a poor draining waste. Do it right the 1st time and save yourself long term headaches.
2006-11-29 02:34:43 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Even if you have installed a bathroom before,when you go in the cellar the rules change. You'll need to install a siphon pump to flush the toilet and waste water up to the sewer line and for that you need a plumber. Copper tubing are great but PVC pipes will do the job as well.
2016-05-23 00:03:30 · answer #6 · answered by Charmaine 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
i do know the pitch of the pipe should be a 1/4 inch per foot so if you built a sub floor you would need the pipe to be 4and some change inches off the floor to give that slope a plumbing book from lowes has been helpful to me
2006-12-04 16:21:34 · answer #7 · answered by mark n 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You need a minimum slope on your new bathroom line of 1/8" per foot, so at 25 feet, your new bathroom would have to be a little over 3 feet high. Plus you need to look at what type of fitting you plan to add to your main line to connect this mess. This will probably take up another foot of space.
2006-11-30 08:57:40 · answer #8 · answered by Jeffrey S 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The first rule of Plumbing is.............sh_t will not run uphill. Believe it ! You have enough trouble in your life. Why get more by putting a toilet in your basement. if you do, your relatives will want to stay with you until the beer runs out.
When the sewer line backs up, guess where all the sh_t is going ? Into your basement ! Do you think your wife is going to clean that mess up ?
2006-11-28 14:44:17 · answer #9 · answered by sonny_too_much 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Toilet For Basement
2016-10-06 01:00:10 · answer #10 · answered by demuzio 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋