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cuz im trying to prove an point, (i think there born)

2006-11-27 14:29:23 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender

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Born Gay.
(and since you're trying to prove a point you can use these sources to help you prove it).

2006-11-27 14:34:18 · answer #1 · answered by χριστοφορος ▽ 7 · 5 0

Yes I do believe its inborn. The evidence becomes more overwhelming every year.

Two things in particular I'm going to point to. A number of major studies have been done of animals. All the species studied had homosexual behavior -- and all the species that had pair bonds at all had homosexual pair bonding TO THE EXCLUSION OF MATING WITH THE OPPOSITE SEX IN HEAT. Explain how that is even possible as a choice for animals? (the best book in this particular field is probably Dr. Bruce Bagemihl's book "Biological Exuberance" from St. Martin's Press -- from its bibliography you can find many others, and you can easily find other studies that look at the same phenomena.)

2nd -- the Fruit-fly study. The results for fruit-flies can't be denied (link among those given below). People are trying to say that just because it applies to fruit-flies it doesn't have to to people. Alright, while I accept that the genetic mechanism is much more complex among humans -- why on earth would something like homosexuality be completely genetic in simple species and not genetic at all in the most complex species? It makes no sense, particularly given that no gay person I know EVER remembers being attracted to a female. Bisexuals are attracted to both. Gays are only attracted to same sex. So -- how is that a choice? Isn't it just the opposite of what straight people feel? An inborn automatic response. Period.

Standing against science, common sense, and logic -- you have a bronze age book that people keep telling each other is divine, but which says the earth has corners (Isaiah 11:12), sits on pillars (I Samuel 2:8), and is on top of the water (Psalms 24:1-2). The book says beetles have 4 legs not 6 (Leviticus 11: 21-23) and states that rabbits chew cuds (which they do NOT) (Deuteronomy 14:7). Given that choice, despite the emotional benefits that I'm sure some people gain from believing that the bronze age book is correct on this, just like it is on the corners -- I'll go with the logic, science and common sense.

Regards,

Reynolds Jones
Schenectady, NY
http://www.rebuff.org

2006-11-27 17:47:21 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

i'd disagree with the "maximum" area of your answer, yet I ackowledge that what you defined does ensue. i do not truly imagine the evaluation to a drug is valid, inspite of the actuality that. meaning that there is something innately purely so much better incredible about gay lovin'. at the same time as I do ensue to imagine that gay lovin' is better ideal, I note of that that is because i'm gay. the different area is, i might want to point that there are a mess of heterosexuals who're also bi yet who also chosen to be immediately (just about continuously due purely to societal pressure; they could or received't also be completely attentive to this selection). So...is being immediately like a drug? i imagine i'm a touch at a loss for words about that bit, yet all i'll assert is that in my existence it wasn't a decision. also, who's to assert that is inevitably both of the options you presented? Supposing that that isn't any longer genetic or otherwise organic and organic (genes are not the in straight forward words ingredient that can make you be born a particular way; prenatal surroundings might want to have plenty to do with progression), doesn't inevitably advise you had any selection in the count number, or that it will be undone. Toast won't be able to opt for to change into bread back. provided that, i do no longer make any puzzling claims as to the source of sexual orientation, because it doesn't count number. What concerns is that there is a few them accessible, and that if no human being's hurting anybody that they ought to all be dealt with with respect and given complete equality.

2016-10-07 21:39:10 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

cando_86, I REALLY loved that answer. I pretty much agree with that.

Before I had attractions to girls, but I'm mostly gay...I had feelings in the back of my mind since I was 5, and watching men in shower scenes in movies I'd remember just feeling aroused. Although I still can find woman attractive too.

It doesn't matter whether or not it's a choice or if you're born gay everyone deserves love and respect and not to be discriminated against or harmed. DOWN WITH BIGOTS, DOWN WITH THEM ALL!

2006-11-27 14:59:05 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I answered this somewhere else, but here it is again, my stance on things:

I actually don't believe that we are born with a predetermined sexual orientation. There are too many people who find their sexual preferences changing over time for this to be true, in my opinion.

I do believe, however, that you don't per se CHOOSE/LEARN to be gay. You don't wake up one day and say "Geez, I think I'll eschew women and go for men instead." But just because you didn't choose it doesn't mean it's biologically a part of you, you know? It's not something you can change, I feel. Take this example, for instance- you are a cat lover. You just love your pet kitties. Never been a dog person, thanks. You just know for sure that you wouldn't ever want to own a dog. So, someone says- you choose to love cats. Well, no, you reply, not really. I mean, I just like cats. I've always been that way. Does that mean, then, that there is a cat-loving gene in your body? Of course not. It means that this is a preference in your mind, one that you cannot consciously change, but is not innate, either.

I think that human sexuality is immensely more complex than the labels we have today like gay and straight. I also believe that love is gender blind and a straight man can find himself falling in love with another man, still completely attracted to women and utterly not attracted to men, but emotionally and sexually satisfied with that one man he loves. Our sexual desires come from our personalities, our past experiences, our childhoods, socialization, and more. It's a heady, deliciously messy mix of everything, and it gives us all that's wonderful about our sexuality today, so diverse.

That's my stance on things. I know that a lot of gay/bisexual people claim they are born that way, and I understand why they feel that way. For them, the claim feels true. In my opinion, a lot of straight people call it a choice so they don't have to ask hard questions about God (creating that which He supposedly hates?) and their source of intolerance (how can you hate something that someone never chose to be, like skin color, or, in this case, sexual orientation?). Like I said, I think it's neither, but I don't mind people claiming they were born gay. Just as long as they don't say that all gay people were born gay, or all straight people were born straight, etc., etc.- until they have scientific proof to back that up.

2006-11-27 14:45:08 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

You do know that when you use CAPS it's a sign of yelling and anger... ?

Do you know how many times this question has been asked? If you really want to know the answer, why don't you just go and look back at the other times it's been posted?

I'm also assuming that you're not gay (by the fact you refer to gays as "they") or else you wouldn't be trying to make a point about it... so I ask you why? is it any of you god damned business? I'm getting tired of people assuming they know better about homosexuality when they don't even live the lifestyle... for crying out loud GET A LIFE! (and i used CAPS as a sign of anger!!!)

2006-11-27 15:04:52 · answer #6 · answered by i_am_nathan_2002 3 · 0 1

My opinion is you are born - and there are certain things about you that are set the day you pop out. How tall you will be, what color your eyes will be, what your hair color will be, your voice, and your sexuality. Just to name a few. Some people may never admit to these pre-set things - wearing lifts or high heels to appear taller, getting colored contacts, dying their hair, forcing themselves to talk in a different tone, and holding back who they are inside. But deep down you are who you are and you are pretty much born that way.

2006-11-27 18:06:11 · answer #7 · answered by purple dove 5 · 0 0

I think that if people weren't born gay, there wouldn't be any gay people. Why would anyone choose to be gay in a world where gay people are discriminated against?

2006-11-27 14:30:50 · answer #8 · answered by jenjubatus 3 · 3 0

what the hell you guys are talking about being born with it? do u have any idea how ENVIRONMENT AFFECTS AND INFLUENCES US???

u dont get to be gay or lesbian when u live all ur life alone inside a house and dont go out.. but its the people around u that makes u what u are.. if u have sisters and ur the only male in the family then it is most likely that u will become gay.. or if u have friends that are all girls and ur the only one that is a guy.. or vice versa, then there's a huge possiblity that they might affect a huge influence on u..

2006-11-27 23:28:42 · answer #9 · answered by Leo Lonesome 1 · 0 2

I can't speak for everyone, but I can speak for myself... I was born this way... no one in their right mind wakes up one morning and says to themselves "you know what? I want to be a social outcast... I want to be the cause of a political and religious tug-of-war... I want to be looked down upon by society... yeah that sounds like fun..." See the logic?

2006-11-27 16:09:31 · answer #10 · answered by Phedre D 3 · 0 0

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