Was it a hoax?

Question

What are your views on the moon landing and what makes you believe that?

I'm not quite sure myself - although the hoax theory has some pretty strong evidence!

I haven't seen the Fox program - I live in the UK. But I saw the program on the Discovery Channel about it, I can't remember the specifics of the arguement - but it's just the same old stuff that comes up everywhere about the shadows, the flag movement etc.

Answer 1

First of all Come on you GUNNERS!!!

I do hope that we did land on the moon cos i want to do it one day

Answer 2

1) Twelve 12 American astronauts have walked on the moon.

Apollo 11: Neil Armstrong & Buzz Aldrin
Apollo 12: Pete Conrad & Alan Bean
Apollo 13: << failed to land on the moon >>
Apollo 14: Alan Shepard & Edgar (Ed) Mitchell
Apollo 15: David Scott & James Irwin
Apollo 16: John Young & Charles Duke
Apollo 17: Eugene (Gene) Cernan & Harrison Schmidt


2) Why haven't we been back?

a) American astronauts visited the moon on six occasions.

b) The "moon race" was an extension of the cold war. It was mostly about national prestige. We got there first and achieved our primary objective. There was some good science: surveys, measurements, sample collection. But it was mostly about being there first. Once we achieved our primary objective, there was no political will to go back. There still isn't. Perhaps, if we discover He3 or something else valuable, there will be.

c) I used to travel to Crested Butte, Colorado every year to ski. Because I don't go anymore, does it mean that I never went?


3) What about the Van Allen radiation belts? Wouldn't it have killed the astronauts?

The existence of the Van Allen radiation belts postulated in the 1940s by Nicholas Christofilos. Their existence was confirmed in *1958* by the Explorer I satellite launched by the USA.

The radiation in the Van Allen radiation belts is not particularly strong. You would have to hang out there for a week or so in order to get radiation sickness. And, because the radiation is not particularly strong, a few millimeters of metal is all that is required for protection. "An object satellite shielded by 3 mm of aluminum will receive about 2500 rem (25 Sv) per *year*."

"In practice, Apollo astronauts who travelled to the moon spent very little time in the belts and received a harmless dose. [6]. Nevertheless NASA deliberately timed Apollo launches, and used lunar transfer orbits that only skirted the edge of the belt over the equator to minimise the radiation." When the astronauts returned to Earth, their dosimeters showed that they had received about as much radiation as a couple of medical X-rays.


4) The U.S. government scammed everyone?

In 1972, there was a politically motivated burglary of a hotel room in the Watergate Hotel in Washington, D.C. There were only about six or eight people who knew about it. However, those people, including Richard M. Nixon, the President of the United States, failed to keep that burglary a secret. It exploded into a scandal that drove the President and a number of others from office.

If six or eight people couldn't keep a hotel room burglary a secret, then how could literally thousands of people could have kept their mouths shut about six faked moon landings? Not just one moon landing, but six of them!


5) What about the USSR?

Even if NASA and other government agencies could have faked the six moon landings well enough to fool the general public, they could NOT have fooled the space agency or military intelligence types in the USSR. The Soviets were just dying to beat us. If the landings were faked, the Soviets would have re-engineered their N-1 booster and landed on the moon just to prove what liars Americans are. Why didn't they? Because the landings were real and the Soviets knew it.


6) Why does the flag shake? Where are the stars? Who took the video of Neil Armstrong?

Take a look at the first two websites listed below. They deal well with all of the technical questions.


7) Finally, please tell us what you would accept as definitive evidence that the six moon landings were real. Is there anything?

Answer 3

Real, real, real.

The so-called "pretty strong evidence" always turns out to be absolutely ridiculous.

There is one thing that should convince you ... more even the idea that it presumes that all those people would agree to participate in a *massive* hoax that would involve thousands of people for almost 40 years.

Even if you really believe that all those NASA engineers and astronauts would participate in, or be fooled by, such a deception ... there's one thing that I think invalidates all hoaxes ... the fact that the best scientists and engineers in the world would have to be so *unbelievably* STUPID that they would miss details that anybody with a 6th-grade science background knows.

E.g. this "evidence" of the waving flag. That presumes that a community of the best scientists and engineers in the world ... would *forget* that the moon has no atmosphere ... but this would be noticeable by any bozo with an Internet site.

Or the idea that the images show no stars ... same thing. What .. you think a group of career astronomers and astrophysicists just ... *forgot* stars? Or is it more likely that cameras work in the same way they do on the earth (try taking a photograph of the stars sometime).

It's not like they were rocket scientists ... oh, wait ... yes, they were!

Answer 4

Many people have explained that the flag is unfurling not waving (it doesn't wave in video, just unfurles in slow motion).

The moon landing astronauts moved THROUGH the high radiation and that is why they were not greatly affected by it. They were only exposed for a very short period of time.

All of the disputes are easily explained by simple science and common sense! Lighting, editing, movement. Please take a bloody science class and attempt to stay awake people.

My favorite argument for it not being a hoax was when a columnist for Smithsonian stated that he ended an argument at a party on the subject by stating that we were in a cold war with the USSR and they had the first satalites and people in space. They were winning the space race by a landslide. When the US got to the moon first it was something like losing a foot race to a parapallegic or being outsmarted in class by the kid in the dunce hat. If anyone wanted the moon landings to be faked it was the Russians, yet they still haven't disputed our landing there.

Fox is the most unreliable network tv company. The smartest things that have ever graced their channels are the Simpsons which makes fun of Fox, and Arrested Development which it cancled.

Answer 5

No. I lived during that era and personally saw Apollo launches. I felt the vibration of a Saturn V engine from the banana river. The engine shook things much more than a shuttle. The engine was more powerful because it had to be. The Apollo mission had to achieve 25,000 mph to escape Earth's gravitation field. The Shuttle needs to attain about 17,000 mph.

Here a suggestion: make a list of detailed questions in a spreadsheet and list the detailed answers pro/con. Read up on books written by the astronauts themselves, like Alan Shepard and Jim Lovell.

Anyone can say anything but that doesn't make it true. You say there is pretty strong evidence for a hoax but do not specify.

Did you see yourself being born? How do you know your parents are the real ones?

Answer 6

On Thursday, February 15th 2001 (and replayed on March 19), the Fox TV network aired a program called ``Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?'', hosted by X-Files actor Mitch Pileggi. The program was an hour long, and featured interviews with a series of people who believe that NASA faked the Apollo Moon landings in the 1960s and 1970s. The biggest voice in this is Bill Kaysing, who claims to have all sorts of hoax evidence, including pictures taken by the astronauts, engineering details, discussions of physics and even some testimony by astronauts themselves. The program's conclusion was that the whole thing was faked in the Nevada desert (in Area 51, of course!). According to them, NASA did not have the technical capability of going to the Moon, but pressure due to the Cold War with the Soviet Union forced them to fake it.

Sound ridiculous? Of course it does! It is. So let me get this straight right from the start: this program is an hour long piece of junk.

Read more --> http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

Answer 7

It always makes me laugh when people say that the lunar landing was a hoax. Most of the people who believe it was faked know little or nothing about space or people for that matter. It's highly improbable that the thousands of people who worked on that mission all kept relatively quiet for forty odd years. Also you should learn how things might behave on the moon before dismissing one of the world's most proundly impactful moments as a hoax.....carigjosp!!!

Answer 8

What would be more difficult : hoaxing the world into believing we landed on the moon or actually doing it? For you morons out there, the answer is that the hoax would be more difficult.

Answer 9

all questions about the six apollo lunar landings being fake are non-sense. i was old enuf to watch it on television and know what i was watching. belief is only required for something that has no evidence to prove it. nasa got a huge amount of evidence to prove that twelve americans have stepped onto lunar soil, and there is no evidence at all that says they didn't.

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/image/featherdrop_sound.mov

here is a video of david r scott (apollo 15) dropping an aluminum geology hammer and a falcon feather at the same time on the moon. there is no air resistance so they both hit the ground at the same time.

http://homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/moonhoax2.html
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

the only thing those who do not accept that nasa sent men to the moon can do is try to refute nasa's evidence.

http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm

Answer 10

The "shadows on the moon" thing.... well yes? Of course there's flipping shadows on the moon!!! The sun shines on it doesn't it?

Other than that, not entirely sure what other hoax theories there are :-S

Answer 11

I believe the pictures are real, although I do not think that they were taken on the moon (Think 'Capricorn One').

My theory does not imply that we did not land on the moon, only that the pictures we are all used to seeing were not taken on the moon.

Temperature extremes on the moons surface would have had a significant damaging effect upon camera film - And they had to give the American people something for their money, apart from moon rocks.