Question about Steven Greer?

Question

I just got done watching some of this guys videos and I can't help but be convinced by what he and the other officials say. Does anyone know if he and his organization are closer to proving what they testify to, and is Steven credible, or is it all a hoax?

Answer 1

http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/greer.html

From this site I can gather that while Steven is not a complete idiot (he has a doctorate in something), he is not in any position to be making such claims (his medical doctorate is in trauma medicine... not astronomy, not general biology, not evolution not even environmental science).

As I go on to read the page's statement he sounds to me like a kind of interstellar James Lovelock, who pioneered the "scientific" Gaia Hypothesis. This is where it gets sticky for me... I do somewhat believe in the Gaia Hypothesis (more in its interconnectedness than its ability to heal). Carl Sagan opposed Lovelock and his hypothesis, and he is my hero so I've always been a little torn on the subject.

I don't think there can be a universal Gaia Hypothesis which seems to be what Dr. Greer is hinting at because life is not connected between planets. Obviously. When we die on Earth microbes on Mars don't eat our bodies. Billions of years later some of the atoms that were once in us might bombard an atom that used to be in a rock on Mars but we don't seem to have much effect on it.

I read on... granted this is new to me, but the conscious oneness... is he saying that we are consciously connected? If this is even possible for humans, which is certainly debatable, I'd think we would notice strange influences from aliens. But I'm not sure what he is talking about. And then he states a lot of the obvious.

Now... it might just be me, but in my years I have noticed that bullshitters tend to fallow a particular pattern. Vague claims with almost nonsensical big words and no examples are fallowed or mixed in with precise and obvious claims that have very little to do with what they are talking about. Such as "Collective mineral deposites are the very essence of our planet and souls or some similar entity is bound to manifest itself in such a hospitible and common location. After all we've all seen rocks. And we've all felt the presence of souls. Allow me to introduce Occam's Razor..."
He is fallowing that format.


Dear sweet god, someone put this man in a Public Speaking class.

Shitloads of stating the obvious mixed in with obscure associations.

Reading the core principals I see that this has a critical flaw for the scientific community, it is seperating itself from science... he will never be able to prove this using science.

"Even physical matter has an aspect of its nature which is non-local, transcendent and conscious"... rocks are conscious?
Light is transcendent... in that it can instantaneously affect other light without transcending space.

In the second point this assumes that animals also have spirits... all living things, even plants and bacteria. Fine, I'll go along with that.

Ah, here is his out. The non-biological spiritual beings in point three... any discrepancies with the physical world can be blamed on those. Sadly he says that they can affect the physical and that poses a problem since the physical world is described by science.

By his fourth point everything is everywhere?

His fifth point draws in faith again. But most religions currently assert that only God is everywhere and in everything.

Well in short, he isn't putting forth his arguments very clearly or giving support... red flag.
He is an MD in an unrelated feild.
His theories use too many different ideas from different areas needing different kinds of proof. Most of this can either never be proven or is likely to be disproven.

The point of this seems to be to open our eyes to all sorts of life. This is a good thing but he is going about it the wrong way I think. Sure it is likely that life comes in many different forms that will look completely new to us but the ones we can have interactions with will be physical. Ghosts and dreams and telepathic communications have some physical value but even if aliens and communications with aliens can be found in these forms, it doesn't really matter if we are not able to understand them. His theories are not scientifically based so I guess it is rediculous to ask for examples or proof. At best, he is jumping the gun... if any of this turns out to be right we would have to start by increasing our understanding and ability to manipulate the spiritual and mental... something humans seem to be sucking at.

Answer 2

A Physician talking about UFOs?
Hmmmm, geeee.. lemme think.........

He's proof that opinions are like anal orifices; everyone has one and they're usually full of sh&t....

He's welcome to his opinions..
They're a bit wacky though....