what do you think about child support laws??

Question

[link to famguardian.org]

Terrorism, Sedition, and Treason:

Why Child Support Enforcement laws are anti-American and an act of Terrorism against Americans

written by: Bruce Eden, Constitutional Rights Director, Fathers Rights Association of New Jersey & Mid-Atlantic Region

U.S. child support reforms are based on the Soviet model, Article 81 of the The Russian Family Code, adopted in 1995. Its use was and is promoted in the United States by Irwin Garfinkel as part of a suite of Communist policy which became known to us as "The Wisconsin Model" because it involves the income shares approach--how much each parent makes determines how much child support is paid; rather than the true cost of raising children. As the Communist Manifesto says: "Each according to ability; each according to his needs". Our child support system was conceived and implemented as part of the former Communist way of doing things.

Answer 1

I understand your point on our law being based on the laws of a foreign country. However, most of our laws are based on ideas other than our own country; we copy or import other countries' game shows and reality shows on tv; we take their ideas and mofify them to fit our situation.

That said, child support laws are very important; the problem is that they aren't enforced equally. If you aren't on public assistance, most states don't give a da**. I do think, though, that non-custodial mothers should be required to meet the same requirements as that of non-custodial fathers.

Answer 2

Child support laws should be upheld. Too much is spent on the support of children (not that they don't deserve it) who's parents are not contributing to thier support. They certainly did not mind contrubuting to thier birth.
True cost of raising a child should be the main factor in determining how much support is paid. Not according to ability to pay. The deadbeat parents are in many instances only concerned about thier own needs (really wants) than they are about the needs of the kids.
They just aren't willing to do without creature comforts, but are willing to let the kids go without food or clothes.
An Act of Terrorism?
You must be dodging the system.

Answer 3

The problem is that enforcement of child support is arbitrary and capricious. Although arrears of child support may result in suspension of driving license and passport and in imprisonment for debt -- and this whether or not the non-custodial parent is ever afforded visitation rights assured in the divorce decree -- there is no effective means of enforcement against absconders.

There are thousands of "deadbeat dads" in the bars of Asia and Latin America, many of whom have obtained the passports of another country. And many others who, having absconded, cannot be pursued for want of proof of paternity.

Some leave out of frustration, being charged with amounts of child support based on fraud or false findings, debts that they cannot possibly pay, ever. In some cases this is due to procedural error, or incompetent lawyers.

For the rest, you are trying to make a political point, but you do so irrationally and so not very convincingly.

Answer 4

This is an interesting topic.

1st should our laws be based on what is generally considered wrong (communism) in our society according to the info provided?

2nd most answers were about enforcing support and "dead beat dads"


Don't know, we should use what ever is the fairest on all levels.

The current US model in most states is very unfair to men. Most laws cause "dead beat dads."
Throw people in jail so they can’t work, stupid
Take away their license so they can't get to work stupid
Asses so much support they cant live, very stupid


With today’s screwed up system more men pay support than women as more women have custody. But when you look at the percentage of compliance men are for more compliant than women. While 10 to 15 percent of men are dead beat or behind depending on the study, 20 to 30 percent of women are dead beats or behind on support.

The correct term should be BEAT DOWN DADs, not dead beat dads. Many have no choice.

If this were a fair and just society
1 custody would be shared in about 97% of all divorces.
2 Support would be calculated post TAX
3 the idea of equal living conditions should be banned it's just never going to happen
4 the parent moving away should lose custody
5 should be calculated based on where each person lives (if mom wants to live where it's super expensive, sorry no extra support for you, same for dad in a reversed situation)
6 if dad/mom has custody and doesn't work, sorry no extra support for you, get to work.
7 support should have caps based on the median cost for the agreed upon location.
etc etc

I'm father with custody dealing with a dead beat mom. She's not beat down, I haven't pushed because she can't currently. Would most women return the same, think not. My ex didn't with her previous spouse, she was a user of the system, it was sick and wrong.

Most of what I said would not help me…………

Answer 5

Child support

Problem:

Women get money from men due only to having children

Solution:

1. Men get list of items needed by children and must supply them monthly removing the economic incentive for women to leave.

2. Women cannot involve other men in the home.

3. Man have right to see children for 8 hours with 3 day notice any time they wish.

American women must be de-whored and these are a good start.

Answer 6

As a child of divorce (with a father that refused to pay after my mother remarried) I believe wholeheartedly in the idea of the laws.

If you are to have children pay for them. I have seen many people I work with that scream bloody murder about paying but will not ro cannot take the children away from the other parent.

Pay up shithead.

Answer 7

i might look at Federal regulation. in view that all newborn help regulations ought to stick to common standards that the government has set. i detect it unusual which you supply up paying help after the 8th newborn. that would not look honest to the youngsters, which in ALOT of states there are ultimate pastime of youngster regulation. I surely have heard of caps that they positioned on the amt which you pay in some states say each and each newborn is 10 %, which you will in basic terms pay x amt out of your earnings in view which you have a superb to stay.

Answer 8

i think that the child should be able to choose who he/she wants to live with.
i mean like a 7 or 8 year old child could make a disicion.
how the hell would a judge know who beats the child.

Answer 9

They are designed to look after the innocent child, who has no say in matters affecting them. It's just, that irresponsibility is made to be responsible.

Answer 10

They got the laws....now they need to enforce them.!!!!!!