Did the native Americans deserve and asked to be killed ?

Question

US invaded Iraq and any Iraqi fighting US forces (to drive out the invaders) is called an insurgent and will be killed.

During the American civil war, Britain considered American freedom fighters as insurgents and tried to suppress the insurgency.

When Europeans invaded America 500 years back as immigrants, native Americans opposed them and fought against them. Should the native Americans be considered insurgents ?

Are the American freedom fighters the only legal insurgents and everyone else (of every other country) illegal ?

Pardon me if there are historical errors in my question. My point is about original/native inhabitants and invaders - no matter who they are.

In spite of all the talk about US being honest, fair, dieing to establish democracy, it looks to me that "physical strength is still the governing factor and not ethics or morality or honesty or fairness".

Answer 1

I did not know that the British fought in the American civil war!

Answer 2

You have many things mixed up. First and foremost you making a common mistake of applying current understandings and concepts to the past. It is neither logical nor will it result in any viable conclusions.

During the years of European coming to the Americas (at least in the modern era) this was the clash of two incompatible cultures. Both the European cultures and the American indigenous cultures (there were multiples of both) had significant elements which were war like and aggressive to all outsiders.

The European cultures had already evolved from purely tribal entities into interrelated political groupings well tested in extensive and brutal wars. The indigenous peoples of America were still significantly tribal oriented although some groups within them had evolved complex cultu4res supportive elements of more advanced cultures. However, while the Europeans were well versed in standing armies and weapon development the American peoples were mostly individual warrior oriented (similar to the Celtic peoples of a thousand years earlier).

Trying to place our present day ethical value system on that period and the ensuing clashes, has no meaning. The end result was cast in concrete. The Europeans had to expand and the Indigenous peoples of the Americas were not cohesive enough to resist.

Answer 3

the definition .. literally ... of an insurgent is the population that rises up to defend their homeland against a govt or an occupier ... did native americans "deserve" it? well, the way the world works is that the strong take over a geographical area by force and claim it as their own ... if the native people dont like it and resist it they will be called insurgents and be put down ... maybe it was wrong for them to rsist the overwhelming force and cause death and extermination to themselves when they could have played it smart and come out smelling like a rose ... i dont think any nation or empire was formed without some indigenous people being against it ... it doesnt necessarily mean the empire or nation being formed wasnt for the betterment of the majority ... but in the case of iraq, i think the betterment is for the minority of rich aholes that are cashing in from it and everyone else is getting pissed on ..

Answer 4

History is full of this kinda thing. The native Americans you speak about have been linked, genetically, to people in west central Asia. It seems when they came across the Baron Straight hundreds of years ago they uprooted and killed the original tribes of the Americas. The people of Iraq aren't the original ones unless you include the swamp Arabs who are arguably some of the first civilized people. Saddam drained the swamps in order to control these people. Did these people deserve it?

Answer 5

Iraq voted. The standing Government that was voted in by the Iraqi people is pleading with the American Government to please stay in Iraq! They do not see us as invaders. What happened to the native American Indians was awful but I can't do anything about that now. But we can help the Iraqi people build the country they voted for.

Answer 6

Ask about Hawaiian History. Supposedly King Kamehameha threw a couple of thousand people over the Pali. Not a White oppressor in Sight.

Where were all these " Freedom Fighters" when Saddam and His Crew Raped, Beat and Killed? Again not a White oppressor in Sight.

You saying they thought that was fine? 90% of the fighters captured or killed are foreign.

Answer 7

Your just a hypocrite with this question. seriously. Did everyone in Jerusalim deserve to be killed by the French then the English? Did the South American indians deserve to be killed by Spain? Did Egyptians deserve to be kiled by Romans?

Get a damn grip. We are not in Iraq to take over and make it the 53rd state. Shut off your imagination for a few minutes and allow reason to trickle back into your empty head. Your sounding stupid.

Answer 8

Natives were wrongfully killed and tortured. Tribes welcomed and taught the white man, only to be slaughtered by the very man that they fed and sheltered.

US strives to be the alpha country...

The US leaders want to be viewed as saint-like and although they are only sticking their nose into other countries turmoil to profit, monetarily and socially, they try their damnedest to seem needed and incomparable to the rest of the world.

It began here, the day white men stepped foot on this land, and only worsened with time...it is sad, but I don't believe it will ever change.

Answer 9

The "insurgents" in Iraq are killing other Iraq citizens, 215 yesterday alone.

Why don't you look up the definition of the word before you ask such a biased and ignorant question?

Answer 10

You are aware that a VAST majority of deaths to Muslims in Iraq are caused by other Muslims, are you not? It seems to me that the "insurgents" have virtually stopped attacking Americans and have focused almost solely on killing Shi'a.

Answer 11

Yes, whoever "wins" is not called treasonous or charged with war crimes. Now if they lost...before The United States declared independence from King George/Britain, many here were called treasonous-including Patrick Henry-Give me Liberty or give me death!

The Native Americans. No, they didn't fight as much-they thought that they could coexist-yes, share-but as it turns out, our ancestors didn't want to share at all. .