Does being gay, and a gay rights activist, AND a Republican make sense to u?

Question

I was watching a documentary at Logoonline.com called "THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM" which was about gay republicans. As a lesbian and also a true democrat i think thats its the craziest thing to be gay and a Republican and a gay rights activist on top of that. It makes no sense...its like why would u vote twice for someone who DOESNT EVEN SUPPORT UR LIFESTYLE! Someone who doesnt even WANT u to get married EVER! It makes NO SENSE...plz make me understand cuz i have yet to....its completely retarded..if not retarded BEYOND THAT...

Answer 1

I don't get that either.

Answer 2

They're into the republican model of economics and government deregulation: small gov't, low taxes, high military spending, corporate deregulation, gun rights, etc. (Of course republicans haven't behaved this way in the RECENT past but ignore that for my point.) It absolutely puzzles me why you expect everyone to conform to exactly the same politics you have. I'm NOT into conforming.

Obviously, they can't side with anti-gay stances but just because someone is a democrat or a republican does NOT MEAN they agree with everything on a politician's ticket. They may agree with 65% but ignore the rest because the 65% contains the most important issues for them. Also, not all republicans are anti-gay. Many seem to be coming out of the closet by accident as you've seen. I don't think pushing the "republican = bigot" concept helps.

I prefer to focus my frustration toward christian fundamentalists (fundies) rather than republicans as it seems the fundies are the real source of the anti-gay movement.

The reason you're having so much confusion is that your world view is probably incorrect. I'll assume you believe republicans are all fundies? Not so. There are republicans who focus on the economics, or war policy, or trade policy, or religious policy. However, many, many christian fundies are democrats. You better look to your own party for a large source of those who are against gay marriage. THAT is why I'm independant. I don't fit in with either party.

As an independant, I'm very conservative about certain issues and very liberal about other issues. I could vote for a republican IF he did what republicans were supposed to do and IN ADDITION legalized gay marriage and kept abortion legal. But I doubt I'll see many of those though with the current crop of republicans.

One last point. Don't forget it was republicans that freed the slaves and pushed for the civil rights acts during the 40's and 50's. Nobody can claim ownership of supporting civil rights. Only an inhumane animal would be against hurting or abusing a segment of our population.

Answer 3

To be completely fair, there are plenty of Republicans that didn't vote for Bush and think he's an asshole. Okay, now I'm me again, and I agree with you that it's weird. That must have been an interesting documentary! I should check it out. I guess that you don't always have to agree with every policy that your party has to identify with the party, but I feel like maybe people in this situation should be independants or something rather than identifying with the Republican party. This is just my personal opinion, though. It's not "retarded", though... that would be an insult to people who really are "retarded".

Answer 4

The problem is you are only looking at one issue. There are plenty of Republicans who support gay people, and there are plenty of Democrats who don't (75% of the country are opposed to gay marriage, and I don't think 75% of the country are Republicans). I'm not a Democrat or a Republican, because I look at the issues. A gay person could be Republican if they are for individual accountability; open trade; strict immigration laws (no amnesty); right to carry a gun; limiting welfare for those who aren't willing to work; that everyone should be treated equally regardless of race, gender or orientation (it goes both ways, i.e. affirmative action descriminates against the majority rather than being judged on merits); limiting taxes; no death tax; and on and on. It shouldn't be about a party, but rather, what's most important to you.

The problem in this country is that everyone get's polarized. We need to be individuals.

Answer 5

I find it amusing how politics has become so polarized on controversial issues, and ignores basically everything else.

If you were to try to tell a foreigner the difference between Democrats and Republicans, you'd probably have to resort to using the words 'gay marriage', 'abortion', 'illegal immigration', 'affirmative action', etc., etc.. Forget questions of fiscal issues, the size of government, individual rights, and so on. Apparently those aren't too important in picking a party.

Honestly, I started seeing the parties merge way back when, and now I can barely tell the difference between them. They both spend too much, trample of individual rights, and increase the size of the government. That's why, in the strictest sense, I'm a libertarian. But I used to identify as a conservative Republican, and I still use that ID secondary to libertarian, despite being a bisexual female who absolutely wants to increase GLBT rights.

How can that be possible, you ask? Well, I doubt there's anyone who is solidly in line with everything their chosen party believes. I mean, heck, within each party there are people who express dissent with their party platforms! You stick your faith and beliefs with a party for its overall message, and you don't have to be for everything they say. Same with me. I agree with the Republicans in a lot of respects, but not their stance on gay marriage. Does that make sense? I hope so.

I mean, think about what you're saying. If you are against everything the Democrats stand for, and pro-Republican in all respects, except for gay marriage- should you become a Democrat? I think not. You stay a Republican, come out, and try to convince your party to reconsider by being who you are- a gay Republican. That's how progress is created- not by leaving one side for the other, but by talking sense into it to change with the times.

Please try to understand . . . it's not 'retarded' at all, and thanks a bunch for using such respectful terminology in trying to understand the topic (yes, that's sarcasm).

Answer 6

It makes some kind of sense; they're usually people who find too much in common with the Republican view on other issues to go against them over this one issue - though some do push for change on the gay-rights/gay marriage issue from within the party.

Answer 7

I saw that documentary too.

While I can understand how someone might be gay and conservative, I would have a hard time voting for a party who not only continues to deny me my basic civil rights, but thinks that I am an abomination. I know that not all Republicans have those beliefes, but the GOP as a whole does, and that's what I have trouble with.

If you're able to figure it out, please let me know.

Answer 8

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Answer 9

Google "Log Cabin Republicans" and read about this group.
Some basically lean left in social issues.

To me, they are gay people who either have a lot of money tied up in politics (trust babies do this a lot)....or gay people who just absolutely, positively hate themselves very, very much.

Answer 10

Sometimes people vote on issues that are bigger than their own, like what's going on in Iraq. Maybe these gay republicans think that the conservative way of thinking is going to help the country financially? Speaking as another kind of minority, I base my vote on the bigger issues myself. I try to help myself on the local issues, but try to put the country's best interests when I vote nationally. I hope this helps.

Answer 11

Hmmm. You are right to be confused here. Republican party isn't real supportive in the area of rights for gay folks. Obviously I did not see the doc. but maybe it was a sarcastic twist?