2006-11-24 05:01:36 · 9 answers · asked by Krystian C 1 in Cars & Transportation ➔ Car Makes ➔ Fiat
It must be something to do with the park-position for the hydraulics for the automatic clutch system. The Dualogic transmission is a manual transmission with electro-hydraulic clutch and gearchange, not a conventional automatic.
I would guess that in neutral the clutch is normally disengaged, to allow the system to select gears quickly when you select drive or reverse, but that when the engine is switched off the hydraulic pressure holding the clutch open is released. It could be that this causes problems when restarting - the car is trying to start the engine with the clutch engaged, which puts extra strain on the starter and battery, and my also be trying to re-open the clutch at the same time, putting even more strain on the battery and wear on the clutch. In Park, everything will be in the right place for re-starting, and the system may not even recharge the hydraulics until Park is deselected.
2006-11-26 11:45:54 · answer #1 · answered by Neil 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Fiat Panda Dualogic
2016-11-01 00:41:11 · answer #2 · answered by hamon 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes I can answer that. I have a Fiat Panda Dualogic.
By parking it "normally" with the gear selector in the normal position, it locks the wheels and acts as a parking brake. Infact the manual says this is the way to park it; and virtually dismisses the use of the conventional parking handbrake by not mentioning it at all in the parking procedure. I can not be bothered to go outside to the car now and dig out the operators manual out to quote the exact phrase; but that is what t says.
So unlike "normal automatics" where putting it into "park" locks the transmission with a spigot (that can break on weaker automatic cars) I believe the Fiat Dualogic system (with the manual gearbox operated automatically) has designed out this potential Achilles heel weak spot; because it is meshing and also locking a manual transmission automatically (I hope you understand that)..
You can test this on your Fiat Dualogic by parking it with your Dualogic "gearstick" in the normal position. With the engine running (at tickover) the car will be in gear but with the clutch dipped (no drive). If you then turn it off, the clutch and transmission locks; and this acts as your official (according to the manual) parking brake.
Without applying the conventional handbrake between the seats, try and rock and push your car. It will not move. This is your transmission lock parking brake. Effectively on Dualogic Fiat s you get two handbrakes. One for the front wheels, and one for the back wheels. Genius!
To take it further Fiat actually say in the car user manual that this is the way to park it. The traditional handbrake is in fact supplementary and not mentioned in the correct parking procedure. I never user the traditional handbrake, except when parking on a really steep hill.
Incidentally I do exactly the same in my manual or automatic cars. I only leave them in gear or park, unless it is a moderate to steep gradient. That way the handbrake hardly ever goes out of adjustment. My 43 year old manual Citroen DS had its handbrake adjusted 10 years ago, and is only just in need of a further adjustment now.
If you park your Fiat Dualogic with the "gearstick" in "neutral"; then you have no parking brake selected naturally and automatically as you turn the engine off. So it can just roll away if no handbrake applied.
This is mentioned in the user manual. I know the English language version in a little funny in its use of words describing all of this throughout the manual. It obviously is a literal translation from Italian; giving slightly "funny" English from time to time.
Its a clever system. It means you have an automatic car, and with an automatic parking brake when it is turned off.
2015-03-31 12:08:20 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Fiat = Fix It Again Tony
2006-11-24 05:30:33 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
In May 2014 I wrote:
It took me six re reads of this section before the penny dropped. The section title should have read.,'When parking on a slope'. Part of the Italian to English translation is the important bit is in the middle of the paragraph.
I believe that paragraph says, 'when parked on a slope'. As with a normal manual box you'd leave it in 1st or reverse depending on which way the car is pointing either up or downhill.
Yup, the Dual Logic manual is a tad confusing and a little over complicated but just go with the flow. I do however, like the idea of being able to pull away in icy/slippery conditions in 2nd gear if the need ever arises.
2014-05-29 03:17:51 · answer #5 · answered by 25 years on 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It might be because Fiat doubt the reliability of the handbrake in said car.
2006-11-24 05:26:52 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Well, if you're driving a standard (stick shift) it might be a bad idea because you could roll down any un-even surface.
If you're driving an automatic... you won't be able to take your keys out...
2006-11-24 05:04:47 · answer #7 · answered by Sylvie M 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
because the engine will conk out
2006-11-24 05:17:42 · answer #8 · answered by russellhamuk 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
because the h/brakes are notouriuosly crap
2006-11-24 05:33:35 · answer #9 · answered by brommas 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋