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Can you please give me points using the Lord of the Flies. It's for a school debate. Please give examples if you can. Thank you

2006-11-22 17:44:58 · 4 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities Books & Authors

By the way I'm on the negative side so I have to prove that is wrong

2006-11-22 17:58:34 · update #1

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No, I belief it is all about power, fear, control of the strong over the weak, one person convinces the group that they must have a leader, and the one with an ego, and lack of self worth will demand loudly that he is the best. the reasonable people will listen and watch, the fearful and negative will rebel, question, envy and fear the leader. The power will either be a strong tool to help the group get things done, or after a while, the power will corrupt the leader and will begin taking advantage. The kids in the book are often more mature then adults. They are put into a situation that is beyone thier skills and often people will fight about things just for the attention. It is very important for humans to feel ackonowledged and respected as an individual. This doesnt happen. Parents blow off their own kids and ignore them, thinking it must be just nonsense and the kids gets a feeling that they must have the attention of loved ones.they willsettle for negative attention and act out. Lack of personal space, food water and interaction will make fights. A cool experiment was done using rats. they put in ten rats into a home for fifty rats, there was more than enough food, water, activities, and all of the rats were polite and loving to each other. then they made the space much smaller and took away food and water so that there was only enough for half of the rats and they started fighting, so we can learn alot about that with humans, think about it.

2006-11-22 18:03:55 · answer #1 · answered by bud88cynthia 3 · 1 0

The boys never really degenerate into a stage of anarchy. They do become "uncivilized" but even during the final pages when they're hunting Ralph. Even at that point they still have "rules" in some sense. They have a definite leader and a hierarchy among themselves, and they'd even formed a "religion" of sorts.

The book is more about showing the ugly, "dark" side of human nature that modern western civilization tries to hide. The boys are put in a situation where they're both freed from the constraints of the culture they had lived in their entire lives up to that point and where they're forced to depend on themselves and each other for their very survival. Ralph, as the protagonist, manages to hold onto being "civilized" until his death. Jack, on the other hand, changes early on and becomes progressively more "uncivilized" as the novel goes on. Jack and the boys that follow him show a side of human nature coming to the surface that we're socialized to push down and hide. The characters aren't written as consciously aware of it, but beginning with Jack (and with only Ralph, Simon, and Piggy managing not to) revert to a place where their survival instinct is the strongest force in them. The younger boys look to Jack's strength and willingness to do things that would have been unthinkable to all of them back in England as their best chance to survive. So he became their leader.

Rather than really resorting to anarchy, they adopted a form of "civilization" and a set of "laws" that fit their situation; one that kept them alive. The change was also influenced by the psychological effect on the boys of being in a situation where there were no adults around to enforce the rules they'd "grown up" with. But the younger boys still turned to the older boys for security and instruction. First Ralph because he was trying to uphold the rules of "civilization." It was a sort of comfort to them in a completely alien situation. Then later they turned to Jack as they became more accustomed to their new situation.

(Hope that's some help. It's been the better part of ten years since I read the book, so I'm a bit foggy on the details of it.)

2006-11-22 18:33:02 · answer #2 · answered by angel s 4 · 1 0

I haven't read Lord of the Flies, but anarchy is the result of a break down of authority. It is temporary as a new power hierarchy will form out of the vacuum. All power ultimately is based on force (not necessarily violence). If all the police and soldiers suddenly disappeared in the USA, there would be anarchy. Eventually people would sort themselves out and we'd have new police and soldiers enforcing the rules of our new rulers.

2006-11-22 17:53:25 · answer #3 · answered by last_defender 3 · 1 0

i wouldn't call what develops in "The Lord of the Flies" anarchy. Rather, the boys evolve a primitive version of society, with leaders, organized activities, and rituals. The brutality and irrationality of it is a mirror of the larger society from which they came, which is at war at the time.

2006-11-22 18:10:19 · answer #4 · answered by injanier 7 · 0 0

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