When the FBI pumps in gallons of extremely flammable substances in order to drive out the occupants, and then the building catches fire, there should be some questions raised. From everything I've seen, the FBI just made a lots of mistakes and did things in a very poor manner. This resulted in the compound turning into a cluster f%.
2006-11-22 04:51:52
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answered by Take it from Toby 7
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Was it related to budget appraisals & awards? In criminal cases, Police use possible motives as a way of identifying suspects. Qui bono (who benefits) is often an extremely reliable way to identify suspects and culprits.
I'm glad I watched the whole of part one before responding because I was going to correct you and say that it wasn't the FBI but the ATF.
How many people (like me) thought that the inferno at Waco occurred on the same day as the ATF raid? It was months later, and the 11 residents charged in connection with the original raid were all acquitted of murder on the grounds of self-defence because ATF agents, and possibly National Guardsmen in supposedly decoy helicopters, opened fire before even attempting to serve their search warrant. The raid took place after ATF had refused to respond to an invitation to enter the compound and carry out an inspection and had lied to US Army officials about the involvement of drugs when using army facilities to train ATF agents for the raid.
I've already been looking into the difference between what took place and what was reported in a number of different recent cases including the Murragh Building (Oklahoma) bombing (after which I heard ATF's budget increased from $40m to $400m pa, which I calculate is 1000%!), 9/11, 7/7, Madrid. Common themes include the [suspicious] involvement of individuals with security clearance not known to regular employees (at the depots of the bus involved in 7/7 and the trains involved in Madrid) and the proven dishonesty of statements made by government employees afterwards ("we didn't think anyone would hijack planes and crash them into buildings.." when there were possibly three different exercises, including Vigilant Guardian, running on 9/11 to simulate that very scenario).
Thank you for posting the question. This is how the internet can fulfil the educational potential displaced in the case of television by the need to appease sponsors & advertisers.
2006-11-22 08:01:02
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answered by Slim_Jim0077 1
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This epitomises the American attitude of 'Freedom provided you have compliant mainstream views'.
David Koresh had attracted the attention of Federal authorities who found the lifestyle of the Branch Davidians distasteful and they were determined to break up the cult (sorry about this word).
There is little doubt that the use of massive quantities of flammable CS gas was authorised by Janet Reno who can have had little doubt about the likely consequences.
In these days of retribution for criminal acts carried out by members of governments, should Janet Reno ever set foot on Crown territory, I should like to see her arrested for the murder of the deceased British members of Branch Davidian.
Useful information:
http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/waco.massacre.html#1
2006-11-22 06:27:20
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answered by Clive 6
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There has always been debate as to who was responsible for the deaths of people during the siege at Waco. While the deaths may not have been "murder" in the technical and legal sense, it is agreed that they died at the hands of government agents or each other. See the link below for more information and do a Google search on "waco incident" to learn more.
2006-11-22 04:50:55
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answered by Anonymous
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well the FBI was the ones to pull the trigger but
prez Clinton and Janet Reno wanted this done, so it was done
she is a cold female
because these people were mad at the local government and were in the highest form of protest!
just like she spent over 300 thousand dollars to get the Cuban boy out of his families house early in the morning, that could have been a deadly thing too, and just think, she could have killed those people too along with the little boy all on Clinton's approval..and just think, the whole family was going to go to court about 5-6 hours after her expensive and almost deadly raid..and the police could have just walked up to the boy and taken him in custody in the court house, but no they love to spend our tax money and show who has the power!
that's why...
good luck
2006-11-22 05:06:14
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answered by Anonymous
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Janet Reno let them. If they really just wanted David they could have picked him up at Wal Mart. I guess I must be one of those nut jobs, just like the Waco Sheriff, who claims he told the ATF that David went to Wal Mart every week.
If you were paying attention when the hearings were going on you shouldn't have questions. Those people were murdered with the ok from Janet Reno.
Sorry Karl if footage of the actual hearings doesn't convince these people, nothing will!
2006-11-22 04:51:16
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answered by dakota29575 4
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Here we go again! I wasn't there. You weren't there. I doubt that anyone answering you was actually there.
Did the government lie to us about it? Maybe.
Did the Branch Dividians kill themselves by starting the fire, etc. Maybe.
I know for a fact, having been in intelligence work in the past, that the government does lie a lot to the public. So I don't trust what they say just because they say it. Coverups do happen.
Was this one of them? Could be. Maybe not. Since were weren't there, we ill likely never know.
It's time to let things go and life your life today. The world will have sin in it until the return of Christ. Sometimes you just have to accept that you can't control everything and find peace with yourself and in Christ. Then you can sleep at night.
Bless you,
Sue
2006-11-22 04:54:30
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answered by newbiegranny 5
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Here we go again. Don't blame the cowardly, phony, religious fanatic who used those children as a shield while his twisted groupies set themselves on fire.
I am no great fan of the FBI, but they are not the ones who put the children in the complex, prevented them from leaving and/or encouraged their parents to keep them there or put up an armed resistance to the execution of a lawful warrant, knowing that it could endanger the children.
Anyone who hides behind children is the lowest form of coward and there is no justification for glorifying them or transfering the blame for their actions under any circumstances. And, anyone who attempts to justify this type of cowardice to further some absurd agenda is hardly any better.
2006-11-22 05:17:24
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answered by Anonymous
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Good point....incompetence and failure to produce a workable battle plan...there was a good chance most of these people were doomed anyway but a stealthy night insertion would have saved many.
2006-11-22 07:55:23
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answered by Anonymous
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Janet Reno was attempting to prove a point. Good news is that she failed miserably. Sort of like the invasion for Elian.
2006-11-22 06:02:45
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answered by Goose&Tonic 6
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