Is it still cruel to make fur coats ect from animals that have died naturally?

Question

I am totally against all animal testing and the fur trade ect, but is this more acceptable or shouldnt we endorse it at all? And also seeing as though we slaughter cows, pigs, sheep for food why isn't wearing wool or leather classed as an abomination too?

When i say died naturally. I mean died of old age, perhaps by a disease (not skin), maybe roadkill! But really i'm talking about the endangered animals not cattle.

as for the girl who called me iliterate and uneducated, then for youre infomation i have completed a two year course in animal care at colledge and also give generously to wspa, i hold fund raising events for our local rspca and support meny cruelty against animals xcampaigns. so i think it is you who needs to be educated babe!

Answer 1

For the first time I appear to be stumped. I don't know, I actually don't know. I would think that a fur bearing animal which died of natural causes (and not shot by that ghastly hunting, shooting, fishing fraternity) or from old age, would show signs of disease in the fur which, in turn, would not make an acceptable fur coat. As we age the skin takes on various obvious signs of ageing and I assume this must be the case in animals. In the wild they rarely have a chance to die of old age unless in a wildlife sanctuary, but even there they are not safe from poachers (who should be hanged). Therefore to sum up, I don't know the answer. Sorry.

Answer 2

I'm curious about how many people who think this way eat meat. I'm against cruelty to animals too, but the biggest abomination is the factory farms and inhumane slaughterhouses used to mass produce meat. Leather is really just a by product of the meat industry.

As for fur, personally I don't like to see it used for fashion, although it may be needed in very cold climates. Most people don't know however that modern snare traps kill the animal instantly with little pain. Wild animals trapped for fur do not suffer like the animals we raise in horrible conditions for meat.

Answer 3

I think it shouldn't be acceptable. Even though the animal had died of natural reasons, it's still cruelty to the body. And i have no idea why wearing wool or leather isn't classed as an abomination but i think it should be and that people shouldnt kill animals for their fur or skin.

Answer 4

How I see it is, if it's from a cow or sheep that's going to be killed for food anyway then why not. I feel a bit different about animals that are farmed just for their pelt. What do you mean about 'died naturally'? Old age? Hit by a car? Not many farm animals live long enough to die of old age and there aren't that many traffic accidents on farms so we are going to have to get our leather and wool they old fashioned way that we have done for centuries.

Answer 5

when you use the leather from a cow who was eaten at least the whole cow gets used, bones and all. same for pigs and sheep, road kill wouldnt make good coats as the body is often torn up and the fur would be in hunks and matted up etc. i dont think anyone needs fur coats anyway.

Answer 6

Until I worked in Eastern Europe, I was against using animals for fur coats. (I'm still against blood sports.. the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable - Oscar Wilde - fox hunting)... However, people need to be aware of a few pro's & con's concerning fur and the cold out east.... Most fur coats are a family investment... passed down through the generations. Fur is farmed out East. The winters drop to minus 30 /40 ... It is damn cold (I know, I've been there!) Your nose and eyes freeze! Western clothing is bloody expensive for Eastern Europeans... If you earn on average $100 per month, and if you are actually paid (this is very important - as regualar pay is not the norm!), the money has to be used on things like food, electricity etc etc.... there is no such thing as 'disposable income'. Strange as it may seem, it is cheaper to buy fur (exceptions being mink etc) than say TOG and it lasts hell of a lot longer. It is also more practical. I knew people who were wearing their granny's fur coat... passed down through the years. Even a family of vegetarians who worked with me actually accepted that the fur was better at -30 than their western togs. As for wearing fur for fashion in the west... thats another debate...

Answer 7

we shear sheep for wool so why not use fur from animals that die from being hit by cars on roads instead of wasting them..
when cattle are killed for food for people we don't care so use the hides for leather which can be made into shoes which everyone wears ..we all wear woollen jumpers so why waste things from animals that die naturally

Answer 8

Why is wearing wool an abomination? A sheep doesn't have to be killed for its wool, only shorn. And please don't come back and say "well shaving a sheep is cruel too." Is shaving a sheep really all that bad? I mean come one, have you ever raised sheep? Do you know for sure that shaving sheep is a bad thing for them? Please, I am not trying to discredit the feelings you have behind your argument, but I ask you to consider all possibilities.

Answer 9

No, I don't think we should endorse it. It's bad enough that there are puppy mills out there without encouraging people with no conscience to raise fur-bearing animals for the sole purpose of making commercial products out of their hides. It would be suspicious to find enough good quality furs from animals that died of natural causes anyway. An animal that has died naturally is probably going to be in bad shape by the time anyone finds it. And I have full confidence that some wretched soul out there would raise animals in crowded, filthy pens until said animals died of old age, disease, or parasites. After all, all those things fall under the natural death category.

As for domesticated farm animals. They are raised to feed us, feed our pets, and keep our hairless bods from freezing. They are not just raised for skins and the carcasses tossed out.

I respect hunters - not poachers. Hunters that legally kill animals do so with permits and a limitation on quantity, age, and sex of the prey. This is a way to protect species and yet keep the species population from overwhelming itself. Example: Deer in some areas were allowed to procreate unchecked without natural predators. Within a few seasons they did not have enough food for themselves, and many died of starvation and overcrowding increased the occurrence and spread of disease.

I'm an omnivore but please don't get me wrong, I also totally respect vegans, too. I think it takes a huge amount of creativity, intelligence, and willpower to stick to a meatless, yet nutritious diet. Vegans have to plan their meals carefully so that they don't get protein deficient. So don't flame them in your posts!

Answer 10

Sheep aren't killed for their fur. Cows are supposed to be killed humanely for their meat and other products, and they are mass produced livestock.

Animals that are killed for fur are usually rare and endangered, and if they aren't they're caught and killed using pretty nasty methods that mean they suffer for long periods of time.

I doubt that if using animal furs that had died naturally would be ok, because people would use it as an excuse for ensuring animals died naturally.

The simple truth is furs shouldn't be used for clothing, synthetic materials are more than adequate at simulating fur, anything else is just vanity.