In the beginning?

Question

Consider this: If God created the heavens and earth in the same way he created light then the words, or the idea of, heaven and earth preceded the manifestation. This is certainly true of the displayed "light", as the words "let there be" definiteley came before it, if taken as read, which is the only way we can take it. Therefore, thought existed before "light", making thought the first instance of a constant. It makes sense as light only became a constant when someone 'thought' about the concept logically.

Confused. Could you also say that thought doesnt exist until you question it. To have reason and not use it is not reason?

Answer 1

Of course he's not a Christian - he has thought about it!

Answer 2

Your question is a bit confusing, but here is my opinion on the whole "let there be light" from genesis thing:

I am a firm Christian. I have friends who don't believe in God. I am fine with that, and so are they. I think that when God said "Let there be light" he meant it literally as in the sun and metaphorically too. As in, God's motive was for enlightenment, not necessarily physical light. The light was more of proof of his being there, and the "let there be light" part was actually saying "Let this light prove I am here, and let people believe in me" Just my opinion. And perhaps Genesis is in fact our own Genesis to being introduced to God, and the hatching of the world also symbolizes our spiritual and religious mind. Many people (such as myself) have had there own holy Genesis, by finding this light, and many have yet to find this amazing light cast. However, your idea of constants and thought before light, etc. is just a waste of time and thought. I say, God was enlightened before all of us, he decided to share is light, and he obviously was logical. Therefor, The Bible is a perfect example of the double meaning concept. Some people will agree, some will say I am reading into it too much. I am simply offering you a new point of view. Have a good night, God Bless!

Answer 3

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. This is in the BEGINNING, before any of the creation including light. This is a pretty heavy concept for us pee-brained humans. Personally, I have learned to just believe it. I can understand it later!

Answer 4

Consider this:the words sounded from dimensions not of slow thinking humans... may be the process of thinking is only known on earth, and let me add, known very insignificantly...Dimensions I am talking about very likely do not have "before" and After", for that terms originated in human minds only with application of only five senses human possessed...Would it be more then five? The way how we think comes from environment which is familiar and tend to create illusion that everything which may exist beyond of it would looks, sound, taste , touched and smell exactly as we perceive it here...There is more needs to be understood in order to deliberate "let there be"

Answer 5

Lucifer was the angel of light. When God allowed light into the world he allowed evil into the world. There cannot be good if there is no bad. Light is knowledge. Knowledge can be good or bad. When Eve forced Adam to eat the apple, they had knowledge. They knew they were naked. When God went looking for them in the garden of Eden, he didn't know where they were. I don't understand how God could not have known where Adam and Eve were in the garden and the fact that they knew they were naked.

Answer 6

We are assuming there was a beginning.
'if' god created anything, is another assumption.
'If' we were to read the bible literally, which would mean reading it in Hebrew and further interpret what ever it says.
Religious scholars and mystics would argue that it should not be read as taken.
So what is the question here?
Does thought/word precede the 'thing'.
It needn't obviously, ever had toothache? Was it there before or after you thought it?

Answer 7

In the beginning there was Pan Gu:
"In the beginning , the heavens and earth were still one and all was chaos. The universe was like a big black egg, carrying Pan Gu inside itself. After 18 thousand years Pan Gu woke from a long sleep. He felt suffocated, so he took up a broadax and wielded it with all his might to crack open the egg. The light, clear part of it floated up and formed the heavens, the cold, turbid matter stayed below to form earth. Pan Gu stood in the middle, his head touching the sky, his feet planted on the earth. The heavens and the earth began to grow at a rate of ten feet per day, and Pan Gu grew along with them. After another 18 thousand years, the sky was higher, the earth thicker, and Pan Gu stood between them like a pillar 9 million li in height so that they would never join again.

When Pan Gu died, his breath became the wind and clouds, his voice the rolling thunder. One eye became the sun and on the moon. His body and limbs turned to five big mountains and his blood formed the roaring water. His veins became far-stretching roads and his muscles fertile land. The innumerable stars in the sky came from his hair and beard, and flowers and trees from his skin and the fine hairs on his body. His marrow turned to jade and pearls. His sweat flowed like the good rain and sweet dew that nurtured all things on earth. According to some versions of the Pan Gu legend, his tears flowed to make rivers and radiance of his eyes turned into thunder and lighting. When he was happy the sun shone, but when he was angry black clouds gathered in the sky. One version of the legend has it that the fleas and lice on his body became the ancestors of mankind. "

:-)

Answer 8

well in the law that exists just now, us, and the future Moores`s Law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law we are at the beginning of a new mechanical age of development and transport, no longer will we have to be here as the mind will be uploaded to new environments, such as the simple hard disk presently and as the newer metallic substances, these will be usable for mass area transfer over planetary systems and also keep us from radiation, the new thing is we are what we are and let us become what we will endear to do.

Answer 9

I am not too concerned about the beginning,the only time I live is "now". It appears what we call God is but pure consciousness,whatever that is. in the beginning this "consciousness" visualized all of creation to the smallest of detail then released it to manifest through the "Big Bang" where the process is still going on. The facts of the expanding & evolving universe prove this "consciousness" is still in control of its creation. All things are but "consciousness expressing itself".

Answer 10

Descartes: "I think, therefore I am" In thinking you are confirming that something exists, the thing that thinks. You can doubt everything apart from the fact you are doubting.
God have had an idea of what the heavens & erth were to be to have created them, but no one can really understand the think ing of a divine being, since to be divine you must be beyond comprehension.

Answer 11

Light comes from energy and there is a surfeit of that in the universe, thought compared to todays efforts comes a very poor second