With Tiki Barber retiring, and with Curtis Martin's career being almost over, I thought about Thurman Thomas and Andre Reed. Reed ranks 4th all time in receptions, and Thomas is 10th or 11th in total rushing yards, yet I never hear their names mentioned for the hall. Martin's a shoe in, but if Barber is being mentioned, I think Thomas should get some consideration. I also think that Reed should be a slam dunk.
Let me know what you guys think, and please don't bring up the 4 super bowl losses, because this is an individual honor not a team thing.
2006-11-21 02:19:31 · 11 answers · asked by That Guy 1 in Sports ➔ Football (American)
I agree with Thomas, and especially Reed...there were seasons where, aside from Jerry Rice, he was the best player at his position...he showed consistency and longievity....and he made countless clutch catches. And he played outdoors in Buffalo in horrible weather, that has to be considered as well.
2006-11-21 02:26:51 · answer #1 · answered by Kenny G 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think Thomas is a yes, but I would vote no on Andre Reed.
Reed put up crazy stats b/c of the run and gun offense the Bills ran, but I don't remember any teams really fearful of Andre Reed on Sunday...they were more worried about Thurman Thomas killing them or Jim Kelly throwing it all over the place.
I don't think Tiki should get in, but assuming he gets a gig in sportcasting, I bet he will...for some reason, being on TV after your career helps you dramatically to get in the HOF.
The one slam dunk of your list that I see is Curtis Martin. He was one of the top 5 RBs for almost a decade...it's very hard to keep that up for such a long period of time and he also did it with some years where the Jets had at best an average passing game.
2006-11-21 03:39:00 · answer #2 · answered by OMO 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They both deserve to be in the Hall, and I believe they'll both be inducted eventually.
Both were first eligible in 2006, and it was their misfortune to be in a group that included Troy Aikman, Warren Moon, John Madden and Reggie White. Since no more than 6 can be voted in each season, that really narrowed their chances. Thomas made the list of 15 finalists, while Reed was held back by the logjam of other still-eligible receivers like Art Monk and Michael Irvin.
I think Curtis Martin will make the Hall in his first couple of years of eligibility. You can't ignore a guy who's fourth in all-time rushing yardage, and all of the retired players close to him are already in the Hall or guaranteed of a spot soon enough.
I never liked the Bills, but Thomas and Reed were great.
2006-11-21 02:42:24 · answer #3 · answered by Craig S 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think Reed does deserve consideration. I wouldn't call Martin a shoe in though. See Martin isn't really known. Sure he is up there but what did he do? I mean you can say that Bettis is a shoe in, espically with him after retiring last year, but he is well known and liked. Martin is more of a back burner character. People don't really knoe him. He was there but was he a play maker or such that would put him in the Hall. If he doesn't make it right away don't be surprised. Anyway I do think Reed deserves in and about 50-50 on Thomas.
2006-11-21 02:26:48 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
You are the first person not to mention LT for the hall of fame today. I remember Thurman Thomas and Andre Reed play. They are the reason they made it to the Super Bowl. Oh yeah Jim Kelly may have helped a little to. Marv Levy had that team in shape. You should see them get into the hall as veterans. They do deserve it.
Mikeypio
2006-11-21 02:23:39 · answer #5 · answered by mikeypio 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Andre Reed should be in the hall of fame but not a Thomas or Barber. Thomas and Barber lack the stats.
2006-11-21 02:23:41 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think we need to wait a few more years before we really start to consider players of the 90's. They are still inducting the greats from the 80's. There are only a hand full now that have played in the 90's and most of them played a lot of their careers in the 80's (Joe Montana, Warren Moon, Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, John Elway, the original LT, Reggie White...), and those are the ones who are getting inducted now. There are some exceptions for those who were above all others like Troy Aikman and Barry Sanders.
But all those players you mentioned should have some considerations but not for another 10 years or so.
2006-11-21 02:46:52 · answer #7 · answered by Keif 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Reed - YES
Martin - Yes
Thomas - Maybe (all the super bowls will help)
Tiki - No, I don't think he should be. He's been VERY good these past few years, but he was not much before that. If Terrell Davis isn't going to get into the Hall of Fame, there is NO WAY that Tiki should.
2006-11-21 02:57:45 · answer #8 · answered by Brian D 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The unofficial cutoff for the Hall has traditionally been 12,000 rushing yards for a runningback, anyone over that yardage has gotten in. If they stick with that, Thomas, and Martin should be in, Barber will not make it. Reed seems to be a shoe in as he's 6th all time in receiving yardage.
2006-11-21 05:09:32 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
They both should be in the hall; you are right. They fact that they went to four superbowls at all should be a plus. Jim Kelley is in. I think it has more to do with the fact that they played in buffalo. Small market players suffer in recognition when it comes to Pro Bowls, Endorsements, and Hall of Fame induction.
2006-11-21 03:34:17 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋