USA/UK to invade Iran or North Korea first?

Answer 1

To meet all these commitments effectively, both Britain and the USA would need to move to some sort of conscription.

This is the bottom line. Somehow Blair thought an increasing commitment to policing Sierra Leone, Afghanistan, Iraq, et c, could be brought about alongside overall CUTS in British defence spending.

Defence cuts in the British Army tend to degenerate into a political game where the regiments or corps with the least amount of political patronage are the ones to be disbanded or amalgamated.

For instance, it would be unthinkeable to cut the Household Division - the FIVE Guards infantry regiments and the TWO Life Guards cavalry regiments - because these are the monarch's personal bodyguard. Any cuts here - and in 2006 do we REALLY still need two regiments of horsed cavalry? - would be viewed as damaging to the prestige of the Queen (who can take her revenge by with-holding knighthoods et c to politicians involved).

Secondly, the General Officer advising on the cuts was from the Parachute Regiment. Now the Paras are trained for full-scale air landings, but when was the last time Britain needed to drop all its paratroops in combat? 1956 in Egypt. Do we really need an Airborne Division any more in its current form?

The case for cutting the three regular Parachute Regiment Batallions down to two was blocked by General Jackson.

Instead, infantry regiments in Scotland and Wales were butchered. Who cares about the Welch Fusiliers or the Black Watch, apart from members of both regimental families?

And now the Royal Welch Fusiliers have ceased to exist, this is having a knock-on effect on recruitment. If you come from an Army family, the tradition and the weight of the years carry influence. In my case I joined the Welch Fusilers, aware members of my family have served for at least two hundred years. Many other people think like this: their military home might be the Black Watch, or the Gordon Highlanders, or the Cheshire Regiment. People want to join their old family regiment - not the ersatz replacement, "the first batallion of the Welsh regiment"

So is it any wonder recruitment in Wales has plummeted? The British government has said it does not value the old Welsh infantry regiments by its actions in disbanding and amalgamating them. Will it value the soldiers who serve in them?

Also there are no "easy" overseas postings any more - no Gibraltrar. No Hong Kong. Hardly any Germany. One of the incentives for British army service - safe foreign travel - has gone down the pan. Iraq? Afghanistan? Sierra Leone? Belize? The weeping sore which is Northern ?reland?

Recruitment is at an all-time low after scandals of mismanagement like Deepcut. (note for Americans: bulllying and possible murder of army recruits, covered up by inept police investigation and corrupt military management)

At some point the British government is going to have to eat humble pie about these cuts. If he wants to hang onto American coat-tails around the world, Blair will need bodies for the army.

I doubt Blair will give us back the lost regiments: this control freakk will never admit to an error. He'll want to make up the numbers somehow. Look for conscription of some sort if he stays in power -this fits his control freak persona perfectly - then he'll be ready to follow where the Americans lead, be it Korea or Iran. (And America will need a new Draft, for Bush to meet his commitments...)

God help us...

Answer 2

One would like to think that the answer is neither.
The US back before the Iraq disaster was busy willy waving at Korea who at the time had a clear and present threat of WMDs in the form of nukes that they used to threaten China US and anyone else- Iraq who had no WMDs became the target for invasion (they have oil!) while Korea got sent the diplomats who defused the situation- hmmm wonder if that could work elsewhere?
Anyway Korea now has nukes, Iran wants them and blimey the UK and US can't run a proverbial pi** up in a brewery fighting two cocked up conflicts that leave their armed forces stretched to breaking and the dead piling up to add to the political embarrassment of miscalculation and other disasters. So add to that peace keeping duties and otehr military obligations I would say if they wanted to lose on every single front that they are fighting - pick another fight - choose an enemy - anyone and the resources would be so stretched that they would be facing the biggst disaster the world had seen for a long time. So hopefully call the diplomats and climb down from the mountain.

Answer 3

Why Iran and North Korea ?
What about if a nation says we are going to attack UK or USA
How would the Brits and Americans feel ?
The days are not far off when another nation will declare as such

Answer 4

It would be Iran - north Korea would be extremely costly and not very easy whereas Iran could be toppled in a few weeks with some strategic strikes - such as communications, munition dumps and generic targeting of military bases and personnel.

It is under consideration but I would suggest that the current Iraq and Afghanistan presence is a major factor in the decision.

Answer 5

Can't say anything about the UK, but the US is a little busy in Iraq...I think the Democratic Congress won't be funding any invasions before the 2008 elections...Invading any country is an admission of ignorance in the area of international relations...My hunch is that Iraq is going to be so screwed up and be so expensive the US will think twice before practicing "cowboy diplomacy" anytime soon.

Answer 6

look on wikipedia encyclopedia historic previous portal. i comprehend China had a short border replaced into with Vietnam in 1979 or 1980,us of a invaded Iraq in 2003 and Afghanistan in 2001,Russia had a conflict with Georgia in 2008 or 2009,and that i'm no longer particular of the different states.

Answer 7

Why should they invade? Why do the UK have to get fu_king involved anyway? IM sick to the teeth of the UK have to back up America.
When the major threat to the was from the IRA were was fu_king America then?
I,ll tell you were.......... On the bars of the pubs in New York there were collection boxes for the IRA to fund there blowing up of innocent people in the UK thats were America stood!!
Why cant they fight their own fu_king battles

Answer 8

Take the buggers by surprise, do them both on the same night. Operation forward: 0500hrs, troops move over the borders of Iran. At the same time, ground troops and airforce launch attacks on strategic positions in North Korea. Heck, why not just do Korea period?

Answer 9

Not true. The USA would get a beating. We lost Vietnam and we would lose Iran and North Korea. ( Note: We lost Korea too back in 1953.)

Answer 10

I think the American mid-term results sent a very stronh message to their leadership not to. The brits are unlikely to go it alone, but if a bunch of other nations go in, we'll bring the tea and cucumber sandwiches along.