Manchester Uni has banned the mention of the BNP from debates and accepts Islamic nutters.
The BNP is a recognized political party so how
can students allow it to be banned from free debate.
2006-11-17 20:23:31 · 25 answers · asked by Butt 6 in News & Events ➔ Current Events
You miss the points.Legal,andDebate
2006-11-17 20:32:01 · update #1
To idiot Jools,It has everything to do with
me,because unlike you i am a tax payer.
2006-11-17 21:22:05 · update #2
Yes it is un-democratic. Any officially recognised body of people should be allowed to be heard, unless it was solely to promote violence or other illegal activities. The BNP is an officially recognised body and hold seats in local government.
This government panders to the ethnic minorities and goes out in force against anyone who tries to make a stand. Some of the BNP's policies are excellent but narrow minded bigots who believe all the race-hate crap would have no idea because they have not got the sense to read it.
Anyone who was once proud to be English is now referred to as racist and freedom of speech seems not to exist unless you are one of the ethnic minority in this country.
It shows how many people have no sense banning the BNP. The labour party under Tony "sheriff of Nottingham" Blair seem to hate the 'English' people and I for one would like to know why?
They have given our country away from under our noses.....
Angry Jemma
Look at that.. thumbed down by some closed minded idiot who would have no idea what the BNP are really about...
Our country goes down the pan and these PC nutters don't see it
!! WAKE UP ENGLAND !!
2006-11-17 20:50:22 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 7⤋
The BNP are a recognised party. The only way to get away with such a move would be to ban the mention of ALL polital parties, even ones that haven't been thought of yet.
Until the BNP or one of it's senior leaders is actually convicted of some crime against the interests of the Nation.
Whether you love them or hate them, or simply don't care, you can't just ignore them - they're not going away. If students can't discuss them, just be "told" that they are "bad" then they can't form their own opinions. We're training younger people NOT to think. A lot of people will go and do some research on the BNP just because of the ban - not only is it undemocratic, it's counter-productive. It will achieve the exact opposite of what the clowns who thought it up were tring to achieve.
Maybe we should all just go and live in Communist Russia, just after the revolution. I'm sure those clever people who proposed the ban can invent a time machine for us.
2006-11-17 20:45:45 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 3⤋
Taking this on face value, this has probably been done to make sure they are being PC, treading on egg shells not to offend anyone. This reminds me when my brother told me that England fans were not allowed to fly the England flag at his University during the World Cup. However, there were no shortage of French, German and other national flags clearly on view.
From my time in University, I remember quite clearly that there were a number of lefty liberalist dossers who preached that everyone is individual and entitled to their opinion. But only if your opinion or view is the same as their own. The BNP should not be excluded from political debate whatsoever. I would be interested to find out what else they ban from debate.
And to the guy who said you have to be a certain colour to join the BNP, if that implies white then that is absurd.
2006-11-17 23:06:19 · answer #3 · answered by Tom 2 · 4⤊ 2⤋
If the ban was a majority choice then I guess this is democracy.
I am also uneasy with people refusing to get up and debate something openly. As long as it is actually debate, and not glorified name calling.
Driving stuff underground is not always a good idea.
Same for Islam, though their message usually boils down to 'Islam is the best creed and you should convert'. Which get a bit samey.
Still, to be logical, at least it is posible to convert to Islam, if you are not the right colour for the BNP, you can't join up.
2006-11-17 20:40:49 · answer #4 · answered by mince42 4 · 5⤊ 1⤋
You are absolutely right, of course. Idealistic students fresh from having been indoctrinateed by their left wing (never will grow up) lecturers, and probably their teachers before them. They probably think that they are being "right on and cool". The university probably has outlawed the BNP as well. These students are a danger to democracy. WHY DO STUDENTS NEED A UNION ANYWAY? They are not in employment, they are there to learn.
2006-11-20 02:29:17 · answer #5 · answered by Veritas 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
You are right this is a clear example of PC censorship and it will only give the BNP more sympathy . As will more race laws a grown up democracy requires free speech and debate . how do's it go now? i don't like or agree what you say but i defend your right to say it?
2006-11-19 23:21:31 · answer #6 · answered by jack lewis 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I'm always hearing from Europeans that they have more freedom than Americans, but here I'm seeing British saying what you just posted and that BNP members and those who voted for them can face discrimination in the labor market, sounds like totalitarianism. Nothing like this goes on in USA
2006-11-19 15:36:21 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
The BNP is a political party just like the others.It shouldn't be denied a platform to speak from.
Do not confuse the BNP with the National Front (although nick griffin was once a member), their policies are very different.If people choose to read all what the BNP have to say in their website then most people will wonder why this party gets so much stick and gathers so much hatred.Their members are ordinary people just like you and me.
All they seem to want to do is help Britain to be great again.
Am i ignorant?
2006-11-17 20:53:41 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 3⤋
Students will ban the BNP because they have to be seen to be "politically correct" while they sit on their non-working arses spouting about their dissertations (Paul Calf had the right idea).Whether you agree or not with any parties politics they still have the right to be heard. What's next ?Stifle the media like Thatcher did with Sinn Fein.I think it was the great philosopher Voltaire who said" I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it".He also said "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
2006-11-18 07:51:58 · answer #9 · answered by Pocket Battleship 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
No. even nonetheless i think of that the bnp is an odious organization i think that anybody who chooses nursing as a occupation does so out of a prefer to assist others, (My spouse is a nurse so i recognize that they don,t do it for the money ). somebody in this vocation shouldn't and optimistically does not enable their politics intrude with their activity.
2016-10-04 02:33:55 · answer #10 · answered by fritch 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This is just another case of so called political correctness. We're suppose to live in a free and democratic society with free speech but if your views don't match them of those in power then you're banned. I'm not saying i agree or disagree with the views of the BNP but every side should be heard.
2006-11-17 20:39:08 · answer #11 · answered by mr brightside 2 · 6⤊ 4⤋