Hi,
Don't take the chance and do it yourself. This is one job for a qualified plumber to do. I mistake and it could catch on fire or blow.
If you really want to do it yourself make sure you use "Silver Solder" on the copper joints.
2006-11-16 09:28:55
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answer #1
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answered by DY Beach 6
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these are all reasonable and they are concerned about your safety; however the tank will not freeze, do not run the copper into the fireplace box, use black 3/8 or 1/2". the copper will melt or distort in time with the intense heat but black won't, plus you install under the flame rather than above. use it as a fire starter assist or mood low-lite flame. the little tank is not meant for large flame fireplaces and will empty in short time. not cost effective!
as for the underground, do 18" after leaving the tank to the outside of the FP, then up the wall to the exposed 1/2 black pipe and join w/ petcock.
remember if you have a bush around the fireplace somewhere, you needn't bury the line, place the tank there and a short-run to the petcock.
additionally, place in a spray btl a small amt of dish soap and equal amts of wtr. spray this on the lines joints for leaks and if it bubbles...fix it.
you're not afraid to cook on your BBQ and the flames on the top and the tank does not explode. so don't worry, this is done all the time and you have a layer of bricks and mortar between the tank and the flame. furthermore, use a carbide drill the size of the pipe to drill into the brick wall then seal with a seal recommended for your area. do a small pilot hole 1st like 1/4" then follow with 1/2" to fit.
2006-11-16 19:32:33
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answered by ticketoride04 5
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So far it appears the information is really good. I would add a suggestion, check with a 'good' building supply house and see if they concur with this. Ask if cpvc would fill the bill, it's less expensive then copper, and schedule 80 is tough enough. Under the assumption you will be living there a long time, and copper does corrode (just look at old pipes) adding to the fact you are using outside and buried, get the plastic covered service line. The other thing that will work is to feed the tubing through a standard pvc pipe as and insulator again corrosion and damage during future landscape project........it's just a suggestion.
2006-11-16 17:56:33
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answered by LifeRyder 4
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In the first place, propane doesn't freeze so, don't worry about that. We lived on the Minnesota Canadian border and the winter temps hit 54 below quite regularly. They never froze.
You do have to bury the pipe or tubing, it should be large enough for the distance covered and the amount your going to use, a fireplace, most probably half inch. Follow your county or State codes, call the courthouse and find out.
I used 3/8 inch for fifty feet, underground to the house than simply into the house. I put it about 12 inches deep, under a driveway. Good luck
2006-11-16 17:34:21
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answered by cowboydoc 7
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It depends on the codes in your area and the distance you need to go. My house is steel piped from the tank into the house, then copper. In my shop I have a smaller 25 gallon tank and I used a 10' hose supplied by the local propane store. It is made of a flexible material and can be purchased in different lengths. You can also buy them with about any combination of standard fittings already attached.
2006-11-16 17:28:38
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answered by Mike W 1
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first make sure your getting the right size coppertubing and connections, then make a ditch from the propane tank to where the fp is but on the outside. Then check you connections on the fire place make sure you can just go thru the wall and inside to valve. But make sure to insulate anything that you can't bury especially teh propane tank. Or else if the winter gets to close no fire for the fireplace cause it will freeze.
2006-11-16 17:29:01
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answered by Anonymous
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First off. Most states wont allow copper for LG (liquid gas) such as propane or butane. the reason for this is that copper is porous and degrades as it ages. It will leak over time. Black iron pipe and stainless or coated flex pipe are what is commonly used for any gas installation. exterior ditches for the pipe should run 18 to 24 inches deep (or below the frost line). I suggest you talk with your gas company and get the codes then begin installation. Home owners often do it themselves but stick to code, run pressure/leak tests on the line and stay away from porous pipes.
2006-11-16 19:33:06
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answered by knight_in_burntarmor 3
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DON'T do it your self!!!
You might be able to do it but if there is a fire your insurance will not cover if you did it. Even leaks where there is no fire the gas can kill and you can be held liable possible criminal charges It is less than a day to install and the cost is fair
2006-11-16 23:45:37
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answered by Gary W 1
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you don't you call the gas company and have them do it, go gas go boom!!!!
2006-11-16 17:37:01
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answered by beneryberlecco 3
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