Question for all who live overseas?

Question

I have seen a lot of racist comments on this forum......are black people in USA, UK, and other countries including african countries different to the black people in south africa and why? Do you accept the other black people in the other countries as your equal or do you see them as "below" you. Im not trying to incite a black/white fight or anything. I just want honest opinions with your reasons for this. My view is that white and black in SA are equal unfortunately as a result of our history some sections of the population missed out on the education etc that the whites got and therefore the older generation are not educated enough to reach therir full potential, and as a result they were not "clever" enough to see through the marxist views and fell for them. The new generation are generally on a par with whites, except for the poor in the platteland who do not have access to decent services and education

Answer 1

We are all racists ( I will explain) but the dividing line is to what extent. South Africans prefer to associate with South Africans, Americans with Americans,English with English etc. Ask yourself the question. If you walk into a room full of strangers and you hear a South African accent will that not be the first person you head for? Racism becomes totally unacceptable when it is used as a means to subjugate or prejudice others. When it comes to skin colour then I agree with Brad that Black Americans are more advanced than their African counterparts due to the superior culture. The same applies to any of the advanced Democracies and Africa or South Africa is still in a stage of human development. Some of the traditions and practices on the African Continent are abhorrent to people in the West who then develop stereotypes. We are all equal in the eyes of God but some are more developed than others and that has little to do with skin colour. It is beyond education and are you for instance aware that 80% of black South Africans do not complete their tertiary education. Many then fall into a life of crime etc so I do not accept your assertion that generally they are on par with their White counterparts.Non completion of education can be for many reasons but it is culturally unacceptable in the West for a kid not to complete at least their tertiary education. In general most kids in Western democracies go on to become an asset to their communities and contributors to the social,economic and human development of their Countries. South Africa still has a long way to go but as with other African Countries this has been recognised and hence billions of dollars have been poured into the Continent in the form of aid. The problem that has arisen and continues to arise is the aid does not reach the beneficiaries for whom it was intended. This in turn causes many who have contributed to feel they are wasting their money and comment in a racist fashion. Africans have the solution in their own hands and they need to put into power Governments who are truly there for the development of the people. Then Africans will start to compete on an equal level to their Western counterparts - of all colours.

Answer 2

Hate to admit this, but this is a pretty good question. It would make a lot more sense, though, if you had punctuated it properly.

Answer is, we are all equal. If you're black, gay, white, Chinese, Hispanic, whatever - we all breath the same air, we all have to eat, we all have to drink.
Are blacks in South Africa the social equals of blacks in America?
No. Because blacks in America were brought up in a superior culture, which is why the USA is the only country ever to put a man on the moon, so in that sense they are different, although a lot of black folks over here love to believe they are African.

Are they viewed as equals in the States? Yes. it's taken a long time to get there, but, yes.
Don't get me wrong, I've seen some of the most repugnant racism in this country. Divided equally between blacks and whites.
Some of the biggest racists I've encountered in The USA have been some of the black Americans I've run into.

Answer 3

I am a South African living in the USA. No, I do not feel that shame separation between "colours" like I feel in SA. Relationships are much more equal and relaxed here. I think Americans are also much less formal that South Africans and we all just call each other by first name, no matter the age difference or status of the person. So I think the informality helps with the "colour" thing too.

Answer 4

I'm with you on the education issue, people aren't stupid cause their black, they didn't receive education cause they are black.
As for people of other races in other countries, I find that because the folk who live here in London (mostly Jamaicans and Pakistanis) did not experience the same level of discrimination as people in SA in the last half a century, their tolerance level is far lower.
I once saw a black Jamaican women get a traffic fine for parking on a yellow line and she was shouting: "This is racist, I'm only getting this fine cause I'm black!" Now affirmative action may be rife in SA but people sure don't play the race card as often there as back in UK I find.
Also black, Indian and colored South Africans seem very keen to get educated and move ahead in life,they are more ambitious where as folk here don't bother going to college or looking for jobs. Also I once heard a colored friend of mine (back in SA's) mom say: "For years we have fought to earn respect from white people, don't you kids misbehave and give them reason to call us savages" over here black and Pakistani people seem more badly behaved, because they don't feel they have the same reputation to uphold.

Answer 5

As u know by now, I live in Portugal but I am a Afrikaans South African. I don't have any problem with skin colour,religion or sexual differences. People are what thy grew up to be, led by the hand of their parents. If your parents are protestant you will be, if they are democrats u will be.

Frankly I do not believe in this stuff. We must be what we believe. I did not babtise my son as a baby because I think he must make his own choices. Unfortunately Portugal is predominantly catholic so that is what he chose,because he did not want to be different to his friends in school.... If u understand what I mean, we say we are something while we believe different therefore we become products of our community. No matter where u go u will find racism. In Portugal people are racist towards the gypsies. But one thing I can tell u, Our black people in SA are more civilized and cleaner than many Portuguese people.

Om op te som:- We are all people, different, but all HUMANS and should treat each other as such

Answer 6

Actually, it is a good question, but to answer such a question is not easy , only becoz of the long talk that must be said about this,

but in my point of view,i can classify the answer to the folloing,
1- personally, i have diffrent look to them, i mean it depends on the one look, you know , idon't mean exactly the collor , it also has to do with ppl's acceptance to each other, we as a humans, was created and we have to attraction appeal, so we do care naturally about the beauty , that we do'nt find in those ppl,and not to forget that some of them are so beautiful even they are black,
BUT it's important to understand my OWN look at them, i truely look at them as the same and without any difference,
but the problem here, depending on my experince, when you deal with thoes ppl as all others of white, then you have to be ware, becoz they will not beleve you, ( not all of them), so you will discover that they don't trust you watever you do, they will still feel they are not equal

Answer 7

Good question - bit windy but good

So I am a SA living in London and I have come to realize that every country I visit has racial issues not always black on white but for instance here in England as well as black on white and vica versa there is also black Caribbean on black African and different white people on each other as well.

i have decided that its not really about color its about understanding another culture and when one group doesn't understand or feels threatened that another group is muscling in on their territory that's when the aggression, distrust and hatred starts.

The thing is this planet doesn't actually have enough land to allow everyone there "space" anymore.

Answer 8

People who don't have households in India and weren't a lot settled there, financially, like foreign higher, coz there they recognize, they will be busy and content material, and yeah such a lot b'coz of inconceivable to face in-legislation and realtives. But persons with enormous households, loved ones in India and who have been very a lot settled in India, like had a residence, good paid process d servants and all, alwayz desire two return. And even a few ppl pass over India. And ppl in many instances are scared b'coz of racial disc.

Answer 9

Hello,
Living in the U.A.E. is cool and you can these lots of people from different places and you will find lots of Restaurants from different places(An Explorer(Abu Dhabi Explorer,etc.) will list the Restaraunts according to where the food is from). Those little beside the road stores are particulary an Arabic name and are owned by Afghani,etc.
I have some friends who are Indian. British. American. Filipino,etc.

Answer 10

Hi there,

I don't know if this is much consolation, but I think that a lot of the reason you're seeing so many racist comments is that people with those views are more comfortable expressing them anonymously than in public.

Sorry you have to read all that crap; I do my best to report such things promptly.