Rudolph Giuliani in 2008?

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, who was hailed as a hero for his response to the September 11 attacks, has taken a step toward entering the 2008 presidential race, U.S. media reported on Monday.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2006-11-14T081909Z_01_N13215392_RTRUKOC_0_US-GIULIANI.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsArt-C2-NextArticle-1

I grew up a few miles outside of NYC.
NYC was grimey....like in the movie "MIDNIGHT COWBOY."
(NY had 18 year drinking age. I turned 18 in 1969 and have been over to Manhatten alot. Drinking in the bars, playing old early video games in the coin arcades.
I used to cut school and go into NYC)
RUDOLPH GIULIANI Disneyfied Times Square.
Good for the tourist Industry.
Good for National Image.
He Cracked down and cleaned things up.

That's what the people wanted.
That's what he gave them.

But do we need these sort of leaderships skills in the WHITE HOUSE?
Kind of authoritarian.

concur?

I fondly recall the bad old days.winos....
aggressive panhandlers....three at a time.
x rated peep shows....xxx theatres....little kiosks selling little plastic baggies and jars of white powder to guys that were going to put the white powder into little baggie, tell tourists it's cocaine. hookers.
Cross the streets whenever and where ever you wanted. Jaywalk at will.
But I was like late teens early twenties.
I LIKED IT
I couldn't handle that stuff now.
My Buddy in NYC tells me I wouldn't recognize the place.

Have the banned smoking in the BIG APPLE Yet?

(apples...healthy and wholesome)
Rudy Good Mayor.
But don't think he would make good President.
Instead of a Nanny State ...
we'll have a DUTCH UNCLE state

Dutch uncle is a term for a person who issues frank and severe comments and criticism to educate, encourage, or admonish someone, often with benevolent intent, as an elder relative or uncle would.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_uncle

Answer 1

I for one am impressed by what Giuliani accomplished as Mayor of New York and his leadership in the wake of the 9/11 attack was nothing short of inspired. Whether or not he will make a good candidate for president remains to be seen. Whether or not I would vote for him depends completely on the platform he presents. By all accounts he is more moderate than anything else and I believe the next president will have to be a confirmed moderate no matter which party they come from. His major competition in the Republican Party is likely to be John McCain. Mr. McCain has an identity problem with many republican voters because of some issues he has sided with Democrats on. Mr Giuliani does not have this problem. Frankly it is just too early to make any predictions about the next election as no one has declared yet, but I would certainly consider Mr. Giuliani just as I will consider all other candidates in both parties.

I see one mistake that many Republicans are making in their posts on this. This is the idea that the Republican party is completely dominated by the right wing and therefore predisposed not to accept a candidate like Mr. Giuliani. There are many moderates in the party that while leaning more right than left are still not overly partisan in either direction. Mr Giuliani is a conservative on fiscal and security issues. This will play well with large cross sections of the party. If he receives the nomination he is more socially liberal and this will play well with moderate Democrats. Additionally he has the power to garner independent support. In presidential elections it is not the partisan extremes which ultimately decide the outcome, but rather those in the middle.

To the idea that running a city the size of New York is not adaquate preparation for being president, I can only say this. What is the proper preparation? The power of a president' ability to lead effectively is in his ability to deal with others and pick good advisors. The President is a figurehead, the actual work of government is performed by civil servants.

Answer 2

Before 9/11 he was an unpopular mayor, a sleazeball who tried to move his m1stress into the Mayor's Mansion while his then-wife (#2) still lived there. He was in the wrong place at the right time on 9/11 but does that make him a hero? What, exactly, did he DO? I know he made New Yorkers "feel better" but that doesn't mean a thing to me. New York would have rallied around WHOEVER was mayor at the time, even if he was Bozo the Clown.

Being Mayor is insufficient qualification for the job of President. And since Giuliani has favored gun control, gay rights, and abortion in his career, any one of which would ruin a candidate in the GOP primaries, he does not have a chance anyway.

Answer 3

Giuliani has some problems. He is pro-abortion, pro-gay, agaiinst the Second Amendment, and pro-amnesty for illegal aliens. Besides, he is a New Yorker, and many American citizens are not willing to be ruled by the east and west coast liberals. Giuliani is just too liberal to run for the Presidency as a Republican.

Americans need a more conservative President to balance the new Senate and House of Representatives. John McCain should be well respected by Democrats and Republicans alike, and there are other potentially viable Republican candidates (if they decide to run) like Bill Frist and Mitt Romney.

Answer 4

2 motives First he owes a great form of favors. Champagne money and political appointments is a sturdy thank you to pay returned favors. next the GOP needs to seize the ny electoral votes. they're keen to resign the Church for brand ny. A Hillary v Giuliani run might finally end up with Ruddy president and ny a RedsState pass huge purple pass

Answer 5

He is my kind of Candidate. I am a non conservative Repub,. I think he has it correct on personal freedoms, yet realizes the importance of fiscal responsibility. He has not been taken over by the religious right, but wont bow down to the liberals. He will get a lot of crossover vote from both side.

I hope the elction comes down to him and Lieberman, then I would not feel devastated either way.

Answer 6

G was a right wing, authoritarian, ruthless prick before 9/11 and still is. He only looked good on 9/11 because Bush looked so bad, (first sitting in the classroom like a deer caught in the headlights, and then hiding in his plane for most of the day.) If he runs, his flaws will be exposed.

Answer 7

Giuliani has too much baggage for the right wing. He has been married 3 times and openly engaged in an affair while still married to his 2nd wife. He is pro abortion, for stem cell research, and supports many other liberal causes. It is probably too much for the neocons to accept. Even McCain is hard for them to accept.

Answer 8

We do not need to repeat Bush! Although I will give Giuliani some respect for his leadership after 9/11; he is not the right person to be president.

Answer 9

First off, he needs to get passed the primaries. And whose to say he'll even get that far.

He was only a mayor. There hasn't been a jump from mayor to president. There have been governors, and congressman that have done this.

Answer 10

Who is the Republican's candidate? An old fart like McCain? Another Bush...as in Jeb? I think Rudy would be a fine candidate. Wether he wins or not...that will be up to the voters.