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From foot-binding (and to a lesser extent, high heels), to neck rings, plates in lips, circumcision and piercings, among other things, human beings have long found it fashionable to mutilate or harm themselves for fashion/status. I can't talk - I have a bunch of piercings in my ears (though they don't hurt, and I know the holes will heal if I take out the earrings). But why is it we do these things to ourselves?

2006-11-14 18:33:08 · 8 answers · asked by The Mad Shillelagh 6 in Society & Culture Other - Society & Culture

Miniboi6666 - you're clearly very passionate about the issue of circumcision. I too am very much against it, and it is among the worst of the instances of mutilation I refer to, being that the child has no choice in the matter, whatsoever. You do seem to have some unresolved issues with women, though - we're not all in favour of circumcison or the cause of it, and as a matter of fact some cultures practice the circumcision of women, not just men. This often includes removal of the clitoris and in some cases the vagina itself is sewn up to leave only the barest opening for menstrual discharge. Frankly, I'm affronted that anyone ever thought to do such things to either gender and I'm surprised that your research has been so one-sided.

2006-11-15 17:12:30 · update #1

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I think humans have a strong desire to prove themselves above their physical nature. Perhaps this is to show that we're not just animals driven by physical being, but that we can apply our mental frames to create and control our physical being.

2006-11-16 14:17:05 · answer #1 · answered by Julian A 4 · 1 0

For fashion, style, or tradition (as with the foot-binding, which is banned... and the circumcision, which is considered barbaric by many... see what religion does?). That's basically it. We're all masochists at heart. Most just APPEAR sadistic. lol

2006-11-14 18:35:45 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

don't know, alot of it seems just to make people seem more like what they consider beautiful whether it be long necks, small feet, or diamond studded ears. By the way nice name.

2006-11-14 18:37:35 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think in some societies they actually had meaning or a use. However in the USA I think it's become a matter of who can outdo the next one one.

2006-11-14 18:36:02 · answer #4 · answered by Dovahkiin 7 · 0 0

To fit in, and in some cultures its for beauty.

2006-11-14 18:52:45 · answer #5 · answered by larryclay2006 3 · 0 0

people like endorphins, some alot more than others

2006-11-14 18:34:43 · answer #6 · answered by Einsteininium 4 · 0 0

The “medical” reasons for circumcision are for Doctors to make MONEY!!!
Yes Doctors are very, very concerned about the patients……….MONEY!!!
Circumcision is “nothing” compared to other much more terrible things that people do for MONEY, when MONEY is involved EVERYRHING is possible, MONEY is the priority not moral values, not ethics, not health, not wrong or right, not even human life, etc. People are selfish by nature. And that is soooo sad. $$$CASH$$$

Simply does not matter if circumcision has advantages or not; he has the right to his body to be intact, and that overrides everything else. And btw it only has disadvantages, see below.

MOTHERS, the feelings of mothers who observed the circumcision of their babies. Go here if you have the courage:
http://www.circumcision.org/mothers.htm
They do not remember the pain when they grow up, but I wonder what kind of neurological/emotional damage it does to inflict such severe pain to such a young one!

In the US circumcision started to stop boys from masturbating; they will take much longer to reach the orgasm, and the orgasm will not be as intense, but that will not stop them.
Nowadays the “medical” reasons to circumcision are for Doctors to make MONEY!!!

RELIGION--If God intended boys to not have "skin" He would have made them so.
Also, if you examine the bible, lest just say that is full of terrible things that are considered very illegal nowadays, and many of those terrible things are AGAINST WOMEN. Women, how would you like it if those things get legalized?
http://www.nocirc.org/religion/

HYGIENE--Use a new invention, soap and water!!! Women produce much more “smegma”, all kinds of discharges, wetness, and smells; because of physiologic and anatomical reasons, and how would you feel if they cut your vulva lips??? Women, why don’t you answer my question, are you afraid? Women are more likely to get urinary tract infections and no one suggests we surgically alter them at birth to reduce the risks! Just one of many double standards and laws that always treat men worse.

MEDICAL REASONS--No medical reasons. It is not a birth defect! A extremely small chance of a complication do not justify the removal of the foreskin, if so, why don't we remove the tonsils and the appendix when a child is born, and the chance of complications of the tonsils and the appendix is much greater. And what is even greater is the chance of breast cancer so the best thing to do is to remove the breast glands of young girls or at least remove them at the first sign of trouble without trying any alternative treatments first in order to preserve the breast(women, how do you like it now?). And for infections of all the organs, including female organs, use a new invention called antibiotics. Talking about complications, in fact many baby boys die each year from circumcision and related complications.
EVEN if “TRUE phimosis” occurs, instead of chopping it off like barbarians!, use Conservative Treatments like:
-Topical Medication(non-traumatic and non-destructive)
-Dilation and Stretching(non-traumatic and non-destructive)
-Combination treatment(non-traumatic and non-destructive)
-Preputioplasty is the medical term for plastic surgery of the prepuce or foreskin(many methods).
If you want more detail on Conservative Treatments, go here:
http://www.cirp.org/library/treatment/phimosis/
http://www.circinfo.org/alternatives.html
The foreskin can still be tight even after puberty, and it is natural, not TRUE phimosis.
And now they invented a new reason to make money, the risk of STD in uncircumcised men. Well actually uncircumcised men have more protection, but in practical terms that protection means nothing, because circumcised or not, if you have sex without protection and your partner have an STD you will be infected FOR SURE! That means, it is just one more stupid and desperate reason in order to make money with circumcisions.

SEX--Foreskin actually enhances the sexual experience for men because it constantly moves over the head of the penis causing more friction and pleasure. Men will also lose much sensitivity to the glans if circumcised.
Circumcised men will have to deal with discomfort and dry glans. Uncircumcised men, pull the foreskin back for a day, and see how it feels against your underwear all day, and see what happens. The frenulum is the G SPOT in men.
The foreskin have those functions: protective, erogenous, sensory, and sexual physiologic. After all, why would you want to lose all of those “Meissner corpuscles”, the same nerve complexes which provide fine touch to the fingertips?
It is there for many reasons, that is how a man should be(it is natural).
If women like it better circumcised because it looks better(strange, not natural) or gives them more sexual pleasure(strange, not natural), then too bad, they do not have the right! All men do not like mutilated vulvas, and all men like breasts with nipples, they do not like mutilated breasts, etc, etc, etc, because that is the way those organs are supposed to be, it is natural. Interesting, isn’t?!!!

If that was a common practice to do that to baby girls, all the women would be in a BIG UPROAR about it(and men too!, men are not like women), but it’s ok to mutilate little boys. The great majority of the ones that agree with circumcision are women for their stupid selfish reasons. Even court cases reported in which mother and father fight because the mother wants to mutilate the son, it is always the mother!. You women should be ashamed to that to your son. Men that are not circumcised, will not get circumcised when adults, they would scream, kick, fight and run, if someone tries to mutilate their privates area, just like you women would run too if someone tried to do that to your labia. Men that where circumcised do not realize what they lost because never had one, and most of them that do realize try to justify it so they do not feel bad about it. Many circumcised men feel very bad emotionally because of what was done to them to such a private area.
The uncut boys don’t joke the cut ones. The cut ones joke because they are jealous and traumatized, it makes them feel better, minimize the emotional pain.
It is mutilation of defenceless children in the most private spot, genital mutilation.
It is cruel and barbaric.
It is a human rights violation.
It is not the parent’s decision; it is the parent’s decision if they want to abuse him, rape him, or to kill him? It is the parent’s decision to choose the son religion? How can he chose a religion or his believes, if he is just a baby?
I do not even agree that it is ok if an adult man wants to get circumcised. I think it is wrong, because if a man wants to lose a finger, the Doctor can not do that to him. Think about it, think, think. And by the way, adult men that decide to get circumcised, do it because they know most women like it, they just do it to be more accepted by women.
I think it is just like slavery and all other barbaric acts of the past, it was accepted because it was common practice or tradition, everyone accepted slavery without questioning the facts, but it is not accepted anymore in a modern and fair and civilized society. Circumcision must not be allowed, BY LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Many other reasons not to do it, check it out:
http://www.mothersagainstcirc.org/
http://www.cirp.org/library/treatment/phimosis/
http://www.noharmm.org/
http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/
http://www.circumcisionquotes.com/boydies.html

2006-11-15 14:09:59 · answer #7 · answered by miniboi6666 2 · 2 2

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