I don't understand the reasoning there. If 2 men get married it doesn't make my marriage (I am heterosexual) any less sacred! In fact it doesn't affect MY marriage at all! In the long run, isn't marriage between 2 people who love each other (regardless of sex) better than hate? I have heard the argument that marriage is between 2 people who can reproduce, but there are hetero couples who cannot conceive. Are you going to say that their marriage is invalid? I think it should be a matter of choice. I haven't seen any valid reasons for denying gay marriage. (I don't consider religious conviction a valid reason, remember separation of church and state?)
2006-11-14 05:02:15 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous in Family & Relationships ➔ Marriage & Divorce
If we are to indeed have separation of church and state , religious conviction cannot be valid.
The marriage between 2 humans is consentual, so the argumant about possible "bestiality" is invalid, an animal or inanimate object cannot consent.That is getting into the realm of the ridiculous.
2006-11-14 05:16:43 · update #1
The divorce rate was rising LONG before the question of homosexual marriage was raised. Marriges today fall apart because society has made it easy to bail out when things get tough, homosexual marriage has nothing to do with it.
2006-11-14 05:22:39 · update #2
Actually, homosexuality has been noted in MANY species, particularly in apes (which are closely related to humans).
2006-11-14 05:25:44 · update #3
The ideals of our "forefathers" were not always correct. There was slavery, witch hunting and the denial of a woman's right to vote, should we still stand by that too?
2006-11-14 05:28:38 · update #4
Copswife, I agree that you have the right to have your own religious beliefs and to raise your children the way you see fit, I don't object to that. But remember, not all Americans are Christians, I am Buddhist, why should Christian beliefs be forced on me. Why should religious beliefs of any kind be forced on anyone? That is why I say the religious reasons are invalid in this case.
2006-11-14 07:02:28 · update #5
Orianas, just one of MANY links, check it out http://www.adherents.com/misc/paradoxEvolution.html
2006-11-14 07:11:06 · update #6
Copswife, you are right, there is not complete separation of church and state, but there is supposed to be and that has to change (and I guarantee it will eventually), but the church that is forcing it's opinions on America is Christianity and not all of America is Christian. I do not expect "cookie cutter" responses, I am just stating my facts and opinions , just as you are. It appears you are the one who is getting upset. LOL "Good Day!"
2006-11-14 08:41:17 · update #7
snvffy, the Bible defines marriage for Christians, not for the world. It does not define marriage for me or many others. If someone chooses to marry more than one person, or a person of the same sex I would explain it to my child as honestly as I could. My whole point of this question is not being addressed by people who opposegay marriage. Exactly how does gay marriage directly affect YOUR marriage?(assuming you are or plan to be married) How does it lessen the sanctity of your marriage? Is or will your marriage bond be weakened in any way? If so, why?
2006-11-14 08:51:14 · update #8
Picking a best answer is going to be hard. Everyone gave really good honest, well thought out answers, I wish I could pick more than 1!
2006-11-14 09:07:57 · update #9
I agree with you completely.
I have always argued your same point...Lots of straight couples can't have kids...So the arguement "Its not natural because gay couples can not produce children... is moot.
What my neighbor, friend, or family member wants to do in his bedroom is not my business..nor is the sexual gender of whomever he chooses to marry.
What IS my business is equal rights....Thats why I don't just "tolerate" the thought of gay marrige...I SUPPORT it.
2006-11-14 05:09:21 · answer #1 · answered by Shakira 3 · 4⤊ 4⤋
Gay marriage is already taking place, its presently authorized throughout eleven states with California to be the twelfth state to legalize it this summer time. Any efforts in opposition to homosexual marriage is precisely pronouncing one organization is higher than an additional which a pass judgement on can readily inform no person organization of folks is higher than an additional. This is the similar to segregation, you may have one organization generating regular propaganda even as the opposite worrying identical remedy below the regulation. Who's going to win? Gay marriage will! the very best court docket has the vigour to strike down each ban throughout this pleasant position of freedom, how ever this turns out not likely proper now, the very best court docket will wait until the time is proper and throw the ebook of the regulation "EVERY MAN IS CREATED EQUAL" proper within the face of all the ones hate corporations. It shall be a distinct time my peers, a distinct time! and should you disagree with what I stated wager what your loosing and your going to unfastened California this summer time too watch!
2016-09-01 12:25:19 · answer #2 · answered by pax 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It doesn't make your marriage any less sacred or valid. Gay marriage has NOTHING to do with heterosexual marriage!! What some people don't get is that with gay marriage, it cannot be a separation of church and state. The two really do go hand in hand, who issues the marriage license the county where you get married in the state you live in! I have no problem with a gay marriage, I don't believe that it should be done by any clergy, since the statement in the bible, but if they so choose they can have a commitment ceremony, being just as valid and giving them the same benefits of a hetero- couple. People please remember this is just my opinion, and you are not required to like it as I am not required to like yours, but we all need to respect each other and be adults.
2006-11-14 05:08:15 · answer #3 · answered by Premo Mom 5 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Where should it stop?
What if 3 people love each other and are in a committed relationship? How about an animal? How about family (sisters, brothers, cousins)? How about 3 women 4 men 2 dogs and a priest?
Get my point! If marriage is not defined it looses its meaning. It has nothing to do with heterosexual/homosexual. I am all in favor of homosexual rights they are equal and should be given equal rights. So if you want to create "Civil Unions" or another legal term that allows homosexual couples to have joint bank accounts and allow one partner to visit another at a hospital and other things that only the spouse is allowed to do that is fine. But MARRIAGE is one man and one woman, to change it will devalue it.
I am adding this after reading all the answers above mine: My reason is not religion and I could care less about what the bible says! If something is not defined then it can mean anything to anyone. So if you don't define marriage as between 1 man and 1 woman again I ask "Where does it stop?"
The people who should really be complaining are the Mormons. Didn't we take away their religious freedoms to have more than one wife?
2006-11-14 05:13:09 · answer #4 · answered by me4tennessee 6 · 5⤊ 3⤋
Great question and wonderful points you brought up.
It seems religious people are the first ones to forget that God gave human being free will. Its this freedom of choice that we use each and every day (tell the truth or lie, have an affair or not, run the red light or not.etc....).
I think some religious people are scared of being wrong or doing bad in the eyes of God, so they want their own freedom of choice taken away so they don't run the risk of doing anything bad. However, the only way they can have their freedom of choice taken away is to also take away everyone else's freedom.
It makes no sense to toss away the gifts God has given human being because of fear. We all have a mind that is capable of rational logical thought that can determine what is good or bad and the free will to decide for ourselves what we will do.
The goal is to leave the world a better place and live a good life.
However, is the world a better place if you have to sacrifice humanities free will so someone who is guessing what God thinks feels better. I didn't recycle today, but I made a child laugh should I be damned or not?
People are only good if they choose to be good, not if they are left with no choices.
Too many religious people are fearful of God and live their lives in fear. I see God as a friend and don't fear what will happen when I die because I know I'm doing the best I can with who I am.
2006-11-14 06:20:05 · answer #5 · answered by snack_daddy10 6 · 2⤊ 4⤋
I am sorry but I am going to have to disagree with you on this. First I do not believe church and state can ever truly be separated since the Constitution, the basis for all of our laws was derived from the religious beliefs of our forefathers. Second homosexuality is unnatural whether you believe in science or God. If is normal then why don't you see it among other species. Allowing gay marriage would effectively say there is nothing wrong with being gay and the laws of nature clearly state otherwise. I believe homosexuality is an illness. It is fine to love another person of the same sex, but the government doesn't have to pass laws saying it is ok for them to get it on.
I would really like to know the sources for the noted cases of homosexuality in the animal kingdom. Not trying to be snotty, I would just like to see the information. Please feel free to email me a link. Perhaps it also includes some information on the possibilities of homosexuality being a genetic anomaly.
2006-11-14 05:18:43 · answer #6 · answered by OrianasMom 3 · 5⤊ 3⤋
well, i think the reasoning is this: marriage has always been a Man and Woman. if after all these years it changes to Man and Man, what would stop people from fighting for Man and Animal? Man and Inanimate Object? it starts opening doors for all things, perhaps more and more perverse as it goes on. i have gay friends so it's not like i am homophobic or anything, but i am also a Christian and i do believe that marriage is for Man and Woman. if two males decide to live together in a committed relationship, that is their decision....
i actually think the high divorce rate is a higher indicator that the sanctity of marriage is weakening
2006-11-14 05:07:28 · answer #7 · answered by sasmallworld 6 · 3⤊ 3⤋
I do not care in the least bit that the majority of folks answering this are pro gay and lesbian. In the same right I am that passionate about not allowing gay and lesbian marriages . I do not in anyway think that they should be discriminated against, in the eyes of man, but I am going to play the religion card. I am a religious person and I raise my children in my faith, my faith dictates that we love on another regardless of their lifestyles, but that some lifestyles are wrong in the eyes of GOD, and that is what I teach my child, just as a Jewish person would teach their child not to eat pork. If this makes me narrow minded, then so be it. I am o.k. with that and I will continue to stand up for what I feel is right, just because it is more 'socially acceptable' does not mean that I have to accept it in my life or teach my children that is acceptable.
There is not a total separation of Church and State (In God We Trust on our money) only one example. You teach your child what you feel is right in the eyes of your god(s), I will teach my children what is right in the eyes of my GOD. We cannot deny religion in our world and the effects that it has on society as a whole, I shudder to think of what this world would come to in the absence of religion. Just because you can shove something into a hole and it fits, doesn't mean that it goes there. Remember you are posting this 'opinion' in a public forum and asking total strangers to comment on your 'opinion' and that is what you are getting. You are not going to get cookie cutter 'opinions' that model your own. Ask and you shall receive, and that is what you have done. Good Day.
2006-11-14 05:37:22 · answer #8 · answered by NolaDawn 5 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Well, Alessa, it ain't fair to ask a question then immediately dismiss a possible response without hearing the argument. You'd be surprised how intelligent you might become by hearing correct answers even if they differ from what you want to hear.
Like it or not, much of our legal system is based on religious teachings that have become law because our forefathers were religious people. Case in point - my marriage certificate in Texas says "Holy Matrimony" because the Bible defines marriage as between one man and one woman. And regardless of the atheists and secular progressives who wish to REDEFINE marriage, NO WAY.
Just as you don't want religion running our secular lives, I don't want seculars to run the Bible. So since the Bible has defined marriage already, and it has been adopted and accepted that way for 2000 years, let's accept it that way.
Almost everything the G&L's want can be obtained simply by having a lawyer draw up papers specifying the nature of the relationship and what they want done to assets, etc. But their aim is destructive in that they want to REDEFINE the Bible's version of marriage and undermine religious thinking and teaching.
NOW, here's how queer this whole thing gets and how it affects the institution of MARRIAGE. Sure, you and I may not be affected, but our children will be. Please tell us all how you sit your 5-year-old down and explain the following?
man & man
woman & woman
2 men 1 woman
2 women 1 man
3 women 2 men
2006-11-14 05:07:08 · answer #9 · answered by snvffy 7 · 4⤊ 4⤋
I totally agree with you. I don't see how gay marriage affects my marriage at all. And as for the reproduction thing, a lot of heterosexual couples choose not to have kids. There are gays out there that will adopt or find a way to have kids of their own. Gay people getting married does not affect my life or marriage. Let them be happy too. Let them have the same benefits of marriage that we do. They are devoted to each other, what more can you ask for?
2006-11-14 05:06:59 · answer #10 · answered by SexyLady 2 · 3⤊ 3⤋
Apparently, if some people you don´t know and have not met and never will meet, who live in San Francisco, have a gay marriage, then you will wake up the next morning and your own marriage will be completely undermined.
Curious, as I thought traditional behaviours that already exist in American marriages, things like sleeping with sex workers, verbal abuse and wife beating, were the things that undermined marriage.
2006-11-14 05:07:04 · answer #11 · answered by Pastor Sauce 3 · 4⤊ 2⤋