2006-11-12 13:34:35 · 17 answers · asked by broadstreetbelle 1 in Sports ➔ Hockey
They are a bit slow for the new NHL and the years of Clarke and his ilk has finally come to a head.
They haven't flipped over from being a ''Broad street Bully" type team to being quicker and a little more skilled. Not to say they don't have skilled players.
Something is way off with the chemistry and stunts like Snider offering Colin Campbell the GM spot going behind Holmgren's back is a pretty good example of crappy management.
He's tried to put that one right but offering him the job longer term, but that's a tough thing to forget.
Nitty is decent and so is Esche, I don't know what the goalie situation is, but having Hatcher on D is not doing them any favors at a -16 his days of ruling the ice are behind him.
I think within 3 years the team will be re-worked and once again be a force to be reckoned with. I think it's going to take a fairly long time and some radically new thinking.
Well....you asked!
2006-11-12 14:07:12 · answer #1 · answered by Lori 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
First, interior the spirit of complete disclosure, i'm a Devils fan. That suggested, I consider people who cite the Flyers carried out previous. they have carried out some stable issues of their historic past and have had some success those days. they have even gained the Cup two times (below the different team of their branch, yet who's counting); consecutive wins it extremely is remarkable. nevertheless, i think the question asks in the event that they seem to be a bad team, no longer a bad franchise. looking at them this 12 months, the respond ought to be "sure". Any team ranked under the Islanders won't be able to be stable, precise? The team enjoying final night appeared very outmatched. i be attentive to the Devils regarded stable, yet to be properly honest, the Devils are no longer the 2013 Blackhawks. If the Flyers weren't undesirable, that should have been a much extra aggressive activity. Their goaltending is sub-par (and that i being form). The offense has been offensive. Defensively, properly look what Loktionov did on that toe drag flow to attain. particular communities..properly, i think of the PP could be first rate; the Devils scored a SH objective, yet Kovy has 4 on the season already and the gang has 8. they could wreck a checklist in a shortened season, no? So, anybody saying they seem to be a robust team precise now desires to place down the crack. in the event that they are no longer a robust team, and that they are able to't declare to be mediocre, then they ought to be undesirable, precise?
2016-12-14 06:10:12 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The main reason the Flyers are so bad (incidentally, being a Penguin fan, you really don't get any sympathy here) because Bob Clarke was so woefully inept. He was just so in love with those big, plodding, oafish defensemen. If fact, I guess he was a such product of the "Broad Street Bullies" of the 70's, that he's tried to make each and every squad into a clone of Fred Shero's Cup winners. But now, you got a new GM, new coach and some good young talent, so they'll get it turned around. Maybe not today, or tomorrow, but better days are coming. (Are you old enough to remember Ron Hextall chasing the Pens' Rob Brown around the ice because of Brownie's excessive celebration after a goal?)
2006-11-12 17:38:43 · answer #3 · answered by Yinzer Power 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Simple. Bobby Clarke was a stubborn man stuck in his ways. They were a dominant team with their "Legion of Doom" line, and other big players. But the "new" NHL is built to cater to speed and stick-handling skill - everything the Flyers are not. Darien Hatcher is this problem personified.
Related - Peter Forsberg may be one of the most talented players to ever play the game, but he certainly isn't one of the greatest. Too cocky and too injury prone. Simone Gagne is definitely NOT a $5 million dollar player, BTW.
I think this team is in for a nasty rebuilding phase before it gets any better. I'd look to Philly to make a trade to either get Nabokov/Toskala from the Sharks, or maybe Bryzgalov from the Ducks. You gotta build your team from the net out.
2006-11-13 01:27:37 · answer #4 · answered by R K 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The defense is far too slow for the speed of the "New NHL." They can't keep up with the quicker skating teams in the league.
Snider and Clarke thought that they could still be a big, plodding team that can just bully their way to wins -- and as Buffalo proved in the playoffs last year, that's not going to happen.
2006-11-13 00:54:39 · answer #5 · answered by mothertrucker 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They took a chance on the NHL eventually going back to the old style of hockey. But as you can see the NHL is sticking to the new style of hockey for now.
2006-11-13 06:19:02 · answer #6 · answered by huff4423 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Chairman Ed Snider has not evolved with the new NHL. He thinks that the 70's style of play that helped the Flyers win two Stanley Cups can still work. That's why I say.....
SNIDER MUST GO !!!!!
2006-11-13 00:28:02 · answer #7 · answered by Awesome Bill 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They're too big and slow, especially on D, they have no puck movers at all. Esche and Nittymaki would be fine if they had any help. Their forwards are talented, but not playing well. Forsberg is awesome, but he gets hurt every year. Once he goes down theyre screwed.
2006-11-12 17:34:10 · answer #8 · answered by mike_mul 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
No speed. Inconsistent goal-tending. They just do not have the players. They were put together wrong by Bobby Clarke.
2006-11-12 13:59:38 · answer #9 · answered by messtograves 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Unfortunately Clarke thought it still mattered if you were tough .With all the fouls that are being called it..wait .Fouls? That's basketball , I get confused these days..
2006-11-13 02:08:50 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋