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2006-11-11 23:25:58 · 8 answers · asked by christophercogan 1 in Society & Culture Mythology & Folklore

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Lloyds of London and it's the Lutine bell

2006-11-11 23:27:48 · answer #1 · answered by Sir Sidney Snot 6 · 1 1

litine bell sits in the atrium, or lobby of Lloyds Insurance Office in the City of London. It was recovered from the HMS Lutine, a cargo ship that was insured by Lloyds in the 19th Century.

The ship sank off the Dutch coast with millions of pounds worth of treasure supposedly on board. The treasure has never been recovered, but the ships' bell was found in 1860.

Since the recovery, the bell has been sounded when bad news was received, and today is still rung for both good and bad news.

2006-11-15 08:00:15 · answer #2 · answered by purple diamond 4 · 0 0

The Lutine Bell sits in the atrium, or lobby of Lloyds Insurance Office in the City of London. It was recovered from the HMS Lutine, a cargo ship that was insured by Lloyds in the 19th Century. As far as I know there is no bell called the litine.

2006-11-12 07:29:40 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

The Lutine Bell hangs in the offices of Lloyd's of London. It is from the British frigate, HMS Lutine, which foundered on 9 October 1799 carrying a large cargo of gold, the majority of which remains unsalvaged.

The bell is sounded whenever there is a large loss, as the cargo of the Lutine was...

2006-11-14 10:12:56 · answer #4 · answered by Phantom1174 2 · 0 0

As the other contributors have already told you, it is the Lutine Bell and it is not a sound that members of Lloyds ever want to hear. It is only rung when there is a disaster, which means the members of Lloyds insurance need to pay out lots of dosh.

2006-11-12 07:33:03 · answer #5 · answered by Raymo 6 · 2 0

The "Lutine" Bell hangs in the offices of Lloyds of London!

2006-11-12 07:28:58 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The Lutine bell hangs outside the offices of Loyds of London and is rung whenever a ship which they have insured is sunk

2006-11-12 07:51:37 · answer #7 · answered by burning brightly 7 · 1 0

HMS Lutine was launched at Toulon in 1779, as La Lutine (translation: 'the tease' or 'tormentress' ) for the French Royal Navy, originally with 26 guns. This was ten years before the French Revolution; on December 18, 1793, she became one of sixteen ships handed over to a British fleet under Vice Admiral Lord Hood at Toulon by French royalists. In 1795, she was rebuilt as a (fifth-rate) frigate with 38 guns. She served thereafter in the North Sea, blockading Amsterdam. She sank on October 9, 1799 carrying a large cargo of gold, the majority of which remains unsalvaged.

The loss of the Lutine occurred during the Second Coalition of the French Revolutionary Wars, in which an Anglo-Russian army landed in the Batavian Republic (now the Netherlands), which had been occupied by the French since 1795. Admiral Duncan had heavily defeated the Dutch fleet in 1797 at the Battle of Camperdown and the remainder of the Dutch fleet was captured on August 30, 1799 by the Duke of York.

During this period the Lutine served as an escort, guiding transports in and out of the shoal waters around North Holland.

In October 1799 she was employed in carrying about £1,200,000 in bullion and coin from Yarmouth to Cuxhaven in order to provide Hamburg banks with funds in order to prevent a stock market crash and possibly also, for paying troops in North Holland. In the evening of October 9, 1799, during a heavy north-westerly gale, the ship under Captain Lancelot Skynner, having made un-expected leeway, was drawn by the tidal stream flowing into the Waddenzee, onto a sandbank off the island of Terschelling, near Texel. There, she became a total loss. All but one of her 240-odd passengers and crew perished in the breaking seas.


HMS Lutine in distressThe loss was reported by Captain Portlock [4], commander of the British squadron at Vlieland, who wrote to the Admiralty in London on October 10:

The gold was insured by Lloyd's of London, which paid the claim in full. The underwriters therefore owned the gold under rights of subrogation and later authorised attempts to salvage it. However, because of the state of war, the Dutch also laid claim to it as booty. Lloyd's records were destroyed by fire in 1838, and the actual amount of the gold lost is now unknown. In 1858 Lloyd's estimated the total value at £1,200,000, made up of both silver and gold. Despite extended operations, over £1,000,000 remains unsalved. An uncorroborated newspaper report in 1869 referred to the Dutch crown jewels being on board.

The ship's bell (engraved "ST. JEAN - 1779") was recovered on July 17, 1858. The bell was found entangled in the chains originally running from the ship's wheel to the rudder, and was originally left in this state before being separated and re-hung from the rostrum of the Underwriting Room at Lloyd's. It weighs 106 lb. and is 17.5 inches in diameter. It remains a mystery why the name on the bell does not correspond with that of the ship. The bell was traditionally struck when news of an overdue ship arrived - once for the loss of a ship (i.e. bad news), and twice for her return (i.e. good news). The bell was sounded to ensure that all brokers and underwriters were made aware of the news simultaneously. The bell has developed a crack and the traditional practice of ringing news has ended: the last time it was rung to tell of a lost ship was in 1979 and the last time it was rung to herald the return of an overdue ship was in 1989.

During the World War II, the Nazi radio propagandist Lord Haw-Haw asserted that the bell was being rung continuously because of allied shipping losses during the Battle of the Atlantic. In fact, the bell was rung once, with one ring, during the war, when the Bismarck was sunk. [14]

It is now rung for ceremonial purposes to commemorate disasters such as the 9/11 disaster, the Asian Tsunami, and the London Bombings, and is always rung at the start and end of the two minutes silence on Armistice Day.

The bell has hung in four successive Lloyd's Underwriting Rooms:

The Royal Exchange 1858 - 1928;
Lloyd's building in Leadenhall Street 1928-1958;
Lloyd's first Lime Street headquarters 1958-1986;
The present Lloyd's building in Lime Street since 1986.

2006-11-12 07:40:20 · answer #8 · answered by DAVID C 6 · 0 0

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