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first of all ive never understood the difference between the bridge and a verse... and id like to write a rock song does anyone have any tips ive made a list of ideas and tried to put it all together but it doesnt make any sense at all its just like a bunch of random thoughts (very disorganized) please help

2006-11-10 06:08:36 · 7 answers · asked by ? 2 in Entertainment & Music Music

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That's usually how good songs start. Rock songs for the most part have a pretty simple formula: Intro (sometimes the chorus is the intro, e.g. "Miss Murder" by AFI) - Verse 1 - (Bridge) - Chorus - Verse 2 - Bridge - Chorus - Breakdown (sometimes the rhythm of the verse or chorus, but instrumental with possible solo, OR a completely new rhythm with a different vocal theme) - Chorus - Outro. So it's Intro - Verse - Chorus - Verse - Bridge - Chorus - Breakdown - Chorus - Outro. Basically what this means is that the verse generally contains most of your lyrical body, while the bridge acts a bridge (hence the name) linking your verse with your chorus. In many cases, there isn't a bridge between the first verse and the first chorus, only between the second verse and chorus. The bridge is useful if your verse and chorus are significantly different in tone, rhythm, key, theme, or tempo. It makes the song flow this way; verse to chorus can be abrupt and awkward if they are significantly different.

If you're struggling writing a song, try recording all the different ideas. This is good for three reasons: you won't forget a cool guitar riff or melody later on (I do that all the time!), it helps you focus on listening rather than playing (you can spot problem spots easier this way), and it will help you identify a hook, something catchy.

If you find something that's catchy, try using it as a chorus. You'll find that in most rock songs the catchiest, most memorable parts are the choruses. Then you'll want to build around that; maybe try doing a verse. Remember, verses usually contain less focus on music (meaning guitars are muted and quieter, instruments are simplified) and more focus on vocals. At first, you might wanna write songs where the chorus and verse are similar, it'll be easier to develop flow this way. You'll get better with time; trust me. Once you've got that down, you might wanna figure out an intro and ending. Don't worry about the bridge just yet; not all songs have them.

Once you have your song mapped out, record it and play it for some people. It's great to have other musicians to critique it; they'll have a lot of good tips and advice. But it's also important to show it to those who don't have a musical background; all they care about is if the song sounds good, not how technical it is or the length, etc. If they don't like it, you'll know, and you'll to change something. Ask questions though; just because they're not musically inclined, they're not clueless either. They should have some valuable input for you.

This is one process of how my band writes songs, but you have to remember, there are tons of ways to write songs, and they don't all work for everybody. The best method is to just experiment and record, record, record... Make sure you get it all on tape, that'll will help, believe me. Listen to some rock songs and pay attention to their structure, that will be useful, too.

Oh, one last thing...make sure you're always having fun when you're doing it, or it's pointless. Hope this helps!!!

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2006-11-10 06:42:39 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The music for a verse is usually repeated several times throughout the song.

A bridge is typically a one-time change in the song that doesn't match the rest of the verses or chorus.

You may find that you are better at writing lyrics or writing music. Many artists excel at one or the other, very few do both well. I suggest you try to write some musical pieces and some lyrics seperately. Think of the lyrics like writing poems.

See which ones seem to work, trying mixing a few of them up, and ask a few friends what they think of each.

You may need to team up with someone else if you find you have a lot more skill in one area or the other.

Good luck.

2006-11-10 06:24:47 · answer #2 · answered by stephenfournier 2 · 0 0

writing a song starts with "a bunch of random thoughts". The first thing to do is to come up with a hook. A hook explains the song in one title, it's often cleaver, but explains what your singing about (i.e. if I said you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me. Or Every rose has it's thorn). Gather your thoughts and put them in a order that makes sense (tells a story), work it around your hook. Create several verses (paragraphs) and tie them in with a chorus. A chorus will often repeat itself and extend a song to it's 3-5 minute mark.(average lenght of a song). At the end of your song is usually the bridge. The bridge is just that, it brings the song together and in one or two short sentences it wraps up the song, gives it a complete story, basically ties your verses in and tells the conclusion of your story.

If this is too much to wrap your head around just write what's on your mind and have fun with it. Also read some poems and notice how they are written. Good Luck and I look forward to hearing your stuff on the radio.

2006-11-10 06:44:28 · answer #3 · answered by robb h 1 · 1 0

OK, first of all, a verse is a line in a song leading up to the chorus.
(Example: In the Beatles song "From Me to You" the verse is the part that goes "If there's anything that you want/if there's anything I can do...")
A chorus, or refrain, is a set of verses that get repeated more than once in a song.
(Example from the same song: "With love from me to you")
A bridge is a couple of verses that differ from the rest of the song structure in melody, beat, or rhyme sequence.
(Examplefrom the same song: "I've got arms that long to hold you/And keep you by my side...")

If you're having trouble organizing your song idea into an actual song, try to decide from your random thoughts which one is the main idea of the song. Is it about love? Isolation? Revenge? Whatever the main theme of all your thoughts you've written down is, that should be the central focus of the song. Once you've got that figured out, try to look through the things you've written down and rephrase them to make them rhyme. Or you don't even have to rhyme them if you don't want- Alanis Morissette and Tori Amos very rarely rhyme their songs. I think it's easier to do rhymes though, for a first song, because it helps you figure out the structure and the melody. Good luck to you!

2006-11-10 06:23:28 · answer #4 · answered by fizzygurrl1980 7 · 0 0

I think the bridge is kind of like either the third verse or a fourth verse added, I write songs.

2006-11-10 06:24:44 · answer #5 · answered by ? 1 · 0 0

I dont think so. But my british lit teacher told me the reason all great songwriters come from europe is because they study old poetry and literature at a young age. That includes shakespeare of course and other great writers. Maybe you should start reading more books and poetry.

2016-05-22 03:10:11 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

write about whats going on in your life now and if the answers dont go right look and see what it is that made you write that

2006-11-10 06:20:13 · answer #7 · answered by alizaboo19 1 · 0 0

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