Kids and ASBOs?

Question

Would it be a Good Thing or Bad thing to maybe put these people in National service if they gain ASBOS. like when drivers who get 12 points for speeding get an automatic 6 month ban. Whats the answer

Sorry when i say National service i don't mean weapons training just 100% psychological and physical training.

Answer 1

i think it would be a good idea toi bring back national service for all youngsters

over the years there has been a decline in respect and good manners ect

i feel this is due in part to the loss of national sevice

obviously there are other factors

Answer 2

The one thing kids hate, is humiliation. If instead of an ASBO, they were made to work in the streets in a bright orange overall, we'd get somewhere.
The trouble with National Service is that although you can teach children discipline, what else are you teachng them? Oh yes, how to kill. And is that what we want - lots of kids who've finished their National Service out on the streets, who've been trained to kill?
We need parenting classes, we need our society to have a long, hard look at itself and we need more prompt and committed punishment, while at the same time encouraging children to have an education. Every child in this country deserves a childhood. Every child deserves two, loving and caring parents, a financially stable background.
It's the lack of this that is the rot in our society.
Forget ASBO's, teach kids they deserve a better life.

Answer 3

you have have been given to paint them in a blue paint that throughout the time of elementary terms shows below UV or black gentle besides. Having an Asbo isn't adequate presently, they additionally ought to have carried out some thing it is have been given them tagged via police - so no longer in elementary terms have they have been given an Asbo, yet they additionally can get caught blue surpassed. it is the technology that have been termed 'ASBO smurfs'. in case you like anymore concepts i'm confident you ought to sit down and watch a number of channel 4's programmes, shameless could be a robust occasion of this and then there is vast brother in case you could wait slightly.

Answer 4

It's been tried. In the 90s (?? I think) there were several research studies which put young offenders on "boot camp" army style training as an attempt to curb their criminal behaviour.

It didn't work in terms of deterring offending, although many of the participants quite enjoyed the experience, in terms of having a structured day and the increased physical fitness. You can read the Home Office findings: http://www.crimereduction.gov.uk/workingoffenders/workingoffenders36.htm

Answer 5

We need to find something as an alternative and quick. Kids dont care about having an ASBO - its a badge of honour now, something for the other kids to look up to. Give them 3 months at a military type boot camp and they wouldnt be so smarmy would they ????

Answer 6

Oh boy, bone of contention this one!!
I absolutely agree that something serious has to be done and quick as regards the ever increasing lawless-ness of our country's adolescents.
Personally I'd bring back the cat & nine tails, or the stocks or use something as inoffensive as a sandwich board saying what they've done and put them somewhere public and busy(perhaps town centres on Saturdays?). Public humiliation is probably the most effective tool we have-unfortunately the 'tree-hugging brigade' who seem to have an ever taller soap box will probably bust a blood vessel or three at the very thought.

Boot camp is, in my humble (and very slightly less right wing) opinion,is absolutely the way to go. Not let's all play on the assault course until tea time though, oh no, run by ex-army instructors with a fitness and discipline regime that would break proffessional athletes. We'll give them a taste of responsibility by having them living as a self sufficient community. This has the added bonus of running itself and having a minimal ongoing cost to the tax-payer after set-up costs. If we can get it to break even or be in profit then fantastic.

Let's not throw adolescent nightmares at the Army to deal with. Instructors at training establishments have enough to deal with with the recruits that WANT to be there causing them discipline issues and crying 'abuse' at the first opportunity without foisting society's 'I know my rights' drop outs on them too. These little creatures need their own, very special set of rules creating in order to pull them sharply back into line and as disciplined as the army is it works on the basis that you asked to be there. Why should respected senior NCO's have to risk their career on these little horrors?
Maybe, post boot camp some may want to join the best army in the world but I don't think we should force them in and jeopardise it's quality.

Answer 7

Back to Boot Camp for 8 weeks extreme training, but no physical abuse, just 100% hard work, with the option of joining the military with a clean record, or going back to civvie street with one. Next offence right into the military for 2 years.

Answer 8

What makes you think the army wants them, if they have commited a crime bad enough to be on an asbo lock them up whatever age they are, at the moment they know we cant so they dont care.

Answer 9

I think that Borstal training was no bad thing, as that is exactly what it was: a grim period of training from which you were not released until you had achieved your target. You received training in a useful trade and if you had literacy problems you were given extra educational facilities. Borstal was abolished in 1983. Maybe we need to bring it back? http://www.fred.stentiford.btinternet.co.uk/hollesley/hm_borstal/open_day_1964/borstal_training/borstal_training.html

Answer 10

Maybe in National Service...maybe in concrete.