Are the Palistinians being abused by Israel?

Question

Is it right for the Israelis to build a huge wall through the farms of Palistinian people so they have to travel miles to tend their cattle and crops?

Autogestion: I've been mainly in hospital, but I got it from the horses mouth so to speak when my WASP relation visited Palistinian friends recently. The Palistinians don't live in a country - they live in an 'open prison' I've seen the photographs. It's no wonder the only way they can fight is through suicide bombing against the most technically advanced and well equipped fighting machine in the Middle East - Israel.

fatboysdaddy:
Please get somebody to teach you how to read and interpret text!

How you can write 'PLEASE go back to school and learn history of the region before you make a statement like you did saying that the land really belongs to the Palestinians'!!!

Where can you illustrate I made that statement?

Timothy W: You posted -
Unless you live in the region or have close accounts from residents, a question like this comes off as a bit naive (at best) or an arch, intentionally skewed straw man argument (at worst).

You will see in details above that my question was nothing more than a question with some known information.

This resulted from, as you suggested - 'close accounts from residents' + recent photographs.

For the record I have no religious, national, or ethnic connection with either side.

Now respond please.

Answer 1

The map of Israel and Palestine says it all:-

http://zionismexplained.org/map/landmap1.jpg

Answer 2

Unless you live in the region or have close accounts from residents, a question like this comes off as a bit naive (at best) or an arch, intentionally skewed straw man argument (at worst).

Can you seriously assign blame to only one side of the conflict? I don't think a reasonable person with more than a superficial understanding of the historical context could argue that.

Consider this, from the lips of an Israeli resident I know:

"You'd be hard pressed to find one person in Israel today who has not had a family member or loved one murdered by terrorism. Whether an uncle, a brother, a spouse, a grandmother, every family has been touched by this. But to be fair, you'd also be hard pressed to find one Palestinian whose life has not been touched in the same way. What charges and complicates the conflict is that neither side will ever forget. The loss has been multiplied and exacerbated that there is no forgiveness, there is no cessation of hostility"

I think that's the real challenge in the region. There are no shortage of "Are they being abused by the other side?" questions - from either perspective. The real challenge is, "Is there anything that can be done to breach the generations-wide gap of hate, loss and anger to bring REAL peace?"

Best to you.

Answer 3

Hmmm lets see you have Israel where you can walk the streets & the only person who will harm you is a Palistinian or Palinstine where the only people who will harm you is a Palistinian. I have no great love for the jewish people (dont really know any) but I have eyes, ears & a brain. Do you think for 1 second if Palistine had the resources to defet Israel there would even be an Israel? Palistine should consider themselfs lucky cuz the same support the western world gives to Israel is the same powers that keeps them from going in & really cleaning house.

Answer 4

two wrongs don't make a right, to stop the advance of terrorism from the disgruntled, not just from Palestinians, the wall did not work for the Russians in east Germany and it wont work now.
to incarcerate a country with a wall just means that the focus will be to get over, around, through, or destroy, like the mountain you want to climb it because its there. LF

Answer 5

Israel does have the upper hand when it comes to the Palestinians. There is violence on both sides but most Western countries back Israel, including the United States and Britain.
The Palestinians lost their land to Israel with the help of the West and they will continue to fight back until they regain the land. Israel feels that the land belongs to the Jews because they are the people of God and they were promised the land. Before the Israeli occupation Jews and Palestinians lived together with very few problems.

Answer 6

Better question you might ask is why does the terrorist....aka....Ha mas, PLO, and Hezbollah, continue to use suicide bombs, rockets and missiles against Israel and nothing is said till Israel fights back?
Israel tried to give land to the PLO in hopes of peace and they said NO. Not till you are all killed and are no longer on the earth. With the wall there has been less attacks by the PLO against the civilians of Israel in the region. In doing this Israel has made it better for their people and so WHAT IF the PLO terrorist have to walk a mile or more!

Just for you please help..........In the history of the world, recorded since Egypt 4500 years, there has NEVER been a country called Palestine! NEVER. It was not until the British agreed to let Israel become a nation again that the Arab countries told the NOMADS called Palestine's to settle in the land of Israel and hopefully the world would let them keep most of the land that they settled in. This happened in 1946 two years before Israel was to become a country again. PLEASE go back to school and learn history of the region before you make a statement like you did saying that the land really belongs to the Palestinians.

Answer 7

only the oposite first of all, i desire to declare i'm American and that i do no longer hate or dislike Jews. i'm basically offering the info. The hobbies of the Jews do no longer outweigh the desires of the persons of the international! The Israeli government could decide for between settlements and peace. they don't have the two On Friday 11 would, Israeli occupation forces torched hundreds of hectares of harvest-waiting fields in numerous areas of the occupied West financial employer. Portuguese Nobel Laureate Jose Saramago, defined Israel’s violations of the Palestinians’ human rights for the duration of a bypass to to the occupied West financial employer in 2002. "I didn’t be attentive to that with the intention to guard some human beings, farmland had to be confiscated and vegetation had to be destroyed; I didn’t be attentive to that with the intention to grant protection for some human beings, hundreds had to be stored waiting at checkpoints and roadblocks before being allowed to return residing house exhausted, it is that in the event that they don't seem to be killed." ============ The Palestinians’ suffering on the palms of the Israelis is worse than in the different area of the international. lots of the Palestinian detainees are infants, who're subjected to actual and psychological torture by potential of Israeli interrogators and penal complex guards in case you like extra info deliver me a msg and that i would be happy to grant

Answer 8

At the end of the day the only reason the Palestinians are fighting back is because they are being oppressed. The palestinians life expectancy is short, infant death rate is high, unemployment levels are very high, why is life worth living? I believe the terrorist state of Israel have no intention to ever allow a Palestinian state to exist.

They have built dozens of Jewish only settlements all over the west bank. These are in places that are of a strategically important value to Israel, like places of a higher altitude and near water reserves. FACT: Three million Palestinians are allowed to use 250 million cubic meters of water per annum (83 cubic meters for each Palestinian per year) while six million Israelis enjoy the use of 2.0 billion cubic meters (333 cubic meter for each Israeli per year), which means that one Israeli consumes as much water as do four Palestinians. Each Israeli settler is allocated 1450 cubic meters per year.

There is also an intricate network of JEWISH ONLY roads that connect all these settlements with each other and back to Israel. The road system is a matrix of oppression, cutting Palestinian towns off from other Palestinian towns. The 'security barrier' has the same effect, Have you noticed that not one inch of Israeli land has the wall on it, for the most part the barrier has been built in Palestinian occupied territory, a land grab. Remember: this is an ILLEGAL OCCUPATION. Why have so many forgotten that?

One should not the sheer racist nature of the Israeli. Any Arab will automatically have a lesser quality of life than a Jew. Simple as that. The Israelis are a bunch of neo Nazis, made much worse simply because the Jewish people were slaughtered by the Nazis and they have become the exact same thing as result.

Required reading, the best source of information on the web about the issue, written by Alison Weir.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

Answer 9

Yes, they are being abused by Israel. And they are abusing Israel. It does not even matter who was the victim and who was the abuser first. The victim is becoming a victimizer, as it happens quite often in domestic disputes. It seems, the same psychological phenomenon is equally applies to the individuals and to the nations.

Answer 10

Of course the Palestinians are being brutally oppressed by the Israelis.Check out Amnesty Internationale's view on the Israeli's illegal occupation of Palestinian land