Apparently the UK give more money to the EU than benefit they receive, surely it would be wise to withdraw?

Question

Various other reasons for withdrawing including being told what/what not to do, nonsense about criminals rights , loosing our independence as a self run country, straight cucumbers/bananas and all the other bizarre ideas that eminate from brussels.

tyler durd yes we are a member perhaps you need to look into this more

Surely we would be better off running ourselves and not having to conform to european laws?

tyler durd i think you mean the euro currency , i mean the european union.

Answer 1

Yes it would!! There are MANY reason to pull out of th EU!!!
To end the drain on the country's finances.
So that we can restore the full authority of Westminster, where the MPs we elect defend our interests, rather than accept rule from Brussels by bureaucrats we neither vote in nor have power to dismiss.
Four out of five of our laws now come direct from the EU. Because EU officials and Commissioners are specifically required NOT to take account of the interests of their own country, such legislation may disregard Britain's national interest!
So that we can pursue 'British' policies for agriculture and fishing, based on optimal self sufficiency and the maximisation of our natural resources.
The EU Single Market, with its fanciful 'level playing field' and a mass of costly regulations, sets member state against member state - whilst preventing each from capitalising on its own individual strengths.
Staying in the EU will mean eventually having to join the euro. As a result, control of the economy will pass to the European Central Bank, which is required to treat the entire EU area as one economy.
When EU 'harmonisation' has raised costs and taxes here to the levels of those in France and Germany, what businesses will come and set up - or remain - here?
The EU is dominated by France and Germany. For forty years, their heads of government have been meeting twice yearly to set their common agenda.
EU enlargement will reduce Britain's voting rights from the present 15% to less than 10%. It is dangerous and naive to think we have any real influence – let alone be able to defend our vital interests against France's unbridled hostility to America and the Anglo-Saxon 'model'.
. The EU will oblige Britain to abandon the centuries old democratic and legal systems that have been embraced by countries throughout the world.
In order to retain full control over our borders and armed forces.
Jurisdiction over who may enter and remain in Britain must be the sole preserve of our Westminster parliament.
Britain's armed services are for defending Britain's interests, not for allowing the French to indulge their long-standing obstructive hostility to America and Nato.
So that we do not bind and betray future generations.
If you look into the EU rules,its frightening!!! I want no part of it!

Answer 2

I agree.

In addition, history shows us that political unions between states of divergent cultures often end in disaster - Yugoslavia being a prime modern day example.

Much as governments would like to artificially impose a political structure which will allegedly remove the differences between cultures (it has been tried many times!) it never succeeds and the consequences can often be very costly.

If even the UK - the union of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland - could not find harmony internally between its peoples (as shown by the current devolution process) after all this time what hope would there be for a federal European state, where cultures are even more widely divergent? To my mind, it is at best a futile and temporary experiment, or at worse, a recipe for long-term disaster.

Nevertheless, the EU is a very "trendy" idea at the moment, and almost certainly will develop into a political union, but history must ultimately be the judge of its wisdom as, unfortunately, I feel most people denigrate and ridicule those who raise concerns such as this.

Answer 3

Yes, we in the UK are governed and controlled by the private member club in Brussels. This will continue whilst we have "party politics" instead of a democracy. Although not yet proved, the business barons buy their power to control, manipulate and maximise their profits to the detriment of all.

Whilst the citizens of the UK still have the choice, vote your local conservative/labour/liberal MP out of office. Tell them that government from the EU is unacceptable, if you do nothing, they win and we lose.

Answer 4

All EU countries contribute to the EU budget, and in return benefit from EU spending in their countries.

Large countries like Britain and Germany are net contributors to the EU budget, while Italy and France are broadly neutral.

However, in 1984 Britain negotiated a reduction of two-thirds in its net contribution, to be paid by other EU members, on the grounds that as a relatively poor member state it paid too much and received relatively little in return.

Now the other EU members, including the 10 new members mainly drawn from former communist states in Eastern Europe, want to abolish or reduce that rebate, on the grounds that Britain is no longer one of the poorer member states, and support for agriculture is a diminishing part of the EU budget.

So you have to weigh up the positives V negatives of membership. Britain may not get nearly as much money spent directly in the UK by the EU as the new states like Poland but it more than makes up for that contribution through the other benefits of membership. The lack of trade barriers between the UK and the other 24 states SUBSTANTIALY saves UK businesses money, to the extent that the economic income from EU trade dramatically offsets the cost of membership.

So far as you point on self determination goes, the UK is one of the three largest voices in europe. The UK and Germany essentially dictate industrial policy while France focuses on agricultural policy.

The UK loses far less independance from mambership than say Greece, Portugal, Spain, Ireland or Belgium who end up usually just following what the big three decide.

Dont forget that the UK isn't even in EMU so we have control over taxes (like all states) AND the bank of England sets the UK's interest rates which are speciffically taylored to Britains economy and out of the control of brussles beuraucrats.

If anything, we should be accused of cherry-picking!

Also you can't draw similarities with Yugoslavia. The EEC was set up by mutually willing and democratically elected STABLE governments. Its premis was to economacally and socially integrate the countries of europe to such an extent that another world war would be simply impossible, id say that's a good enough reason in itself.

Answer 5

I think apart from the meddling by Brussels. Being in Europe is at present, OK. I do however think that introducing the Euro would be a faux pas. I think at this present moment in time withdrawing (especially straightaway) would be jumping the gun.

Answer 6

This is the liberal VS Conservative Arguement, they want more than they make and want it from conservatives, the US citizen is not screwed yet we stil have the veto, The UK citizen is not either you still have your own currency and can withdraw from that thing they call the EU.

Answer 7

there are benefits but we do lose out by being in the Eu as well. an example would be the farmers subsidies in france in relation to Britains

Answer 8

This is the same country that make getting on the dole easier than getting an education.

Answer 9

If only.

The full economic impact has not yet been felt after Poland joined. God help us when Romania get in in the New Year.

Answer 10

Gee. Good point, maybe California should withdraw from USA because we give more money than benefits.