I'm a Californian who voted NO on 85 and am CELEBRATING TONIGHT!!
Maybe we should just keep abortion a state's issue...
Here in California, all of our Central Valley is taking up so much land and much needed precious water for farming to grow most of the food for the rest of the nation. (And much of the world!) Hence, we get a much larger proportion of illegal immigrants to work the farmland, and their children must be provided with education, health care, social services, which puts a huge strain on our social services. All this land that could be used to build affordable housing in California is instead used to grow food for the rest of America, (if we only had to grow to feed ourselves it wouldn't be such a problem) and our real estate prices, hence rent, is so sky high as a result too. If you don't have rich parents to send you to college (funds for higher education have also been cut), or bought a house 8 years ago or more, your s**t out of luck. The median price and average price of a single family home here is among the highest in the nation, many times more than in the red states, and our gasoline is the most expensive, we're running out of water. With over 30 million people in our state---(the most populous in the U.S.??), and a burgeoning population on the horizon with no more water in sight (unless we stop growing food for you) and not enough affordable housing, schools, and social services---medical care, decent paying jobs, not enough foster care or rehab programs in our juvenile halls for the unwanted children already born in poverty who slipped through the cracks, toxic waste sites not being cleaned up by corporations hence more cancer in many densely populated areas, huge gang and drug problems, mass transit that doesn't work like NYC since L.A. is much more sprawled out, not enough affordable childcare or full time jobs that pay a living wage, a meth epidemic statewide swallowing up our youth and not enough affordable inpatient rehab centers, while traffic problems that are among the worst in the nation already, (forget about 20 years from now) Just try to go online, if you live outside our state, and plan a vacation here for a week for a family of 4! Even hotels cost so much more--compared to your state if you're from a sparsely populated red state! Among other ills here that only our locals may know about, but cost tons of money, are important, and a burgeoning population cannot support: Landfill space is very limited, today's culture people still use disposable diapers (unfortunately) and cook less from scratch, so more packaging there....air pollution, (there are many valleys here, surrounded by mountains, where the smog never goes away....), and thus every kid I know of has asthma, chronic bronchitis, etc...anytime it rains for more than one day straight, most of the southern california beaches (from beach boys and gidget movies) are closed due to unsafe bacteria from the sewage...people get sick, and it happens more and more every year...Clean drinking water and monitoring of water (especially in heavily populated metro areas), the Salton Sea, (biggest lake in california, east of San Diego), IS DISAPPEARING.....if it does, the 2 million people in San Diego will be at huge risk, as the dry lakebed and its contents blowing in the wind will be toxic...wildfires every summer, seeming more numerous and severe as time goes by(thanks to global warming) that cost millions and millions a year in loss money to fight, lost forest and environmental damage, lost lives and property and aesthetic beauty...earthquake damage and earthquake retrofitting and preparedness, security to prevent terrorism for our 30 million Californians, and I'm sure you all remember what Enron did to us a few summers ago, we didn't have enough electricity!! We have to increase our power grid for the millions more our population will grow (estimated to be 20-30 million more by 2050!!??) etc. ad nauseum....
So, if you fairly listened to all this and understand a bit more, I respectfully ask (some) of you:
Who are you in, say, a state like Wyoming or South Dakota with populations of less than a million people to tell us that we are to further restrict a female's choice if she so wishes to have an abortion, not be a mother and give birth, and hence not exacerbate our population crisis here in California?
In more densely populated states, sex happens more often--when there's 200 people per square mile instead of 6, for example!! So even if you lived your whole life in a 50 mile radius in a red state, try to use your imagination and see things from a different perspective! Think outside your bubble, population IS a problem here, (also people from all over the country move here, unlike someplace like Wyoming or South Dakota, for example) it's a reality we must deal with!
Try to tolerate our point of view and respect us enough to not try to usurp our rights to abortion laws, just because the red states have the majority of the senate since states with half a million people get the same amount of Senators as states like New York and California with 40-60 times more population! From what I hear most red states have made it virtually impossible to have an abortion, so just keep that your own culture if you must! All your church people shouldn't want ones anyway if your religion is doing what it's supposed to, otherwise change your religion!
By the way: to one of the answerers who referred to a fetus as a "person": all the persons in my life have been born and breathe! The born and breathing take priority for me--this is from a mom of an 18 and 20 yr old!! And stepmom of 23 & 22 year old, no way can we send them all to college, so we send none of them--and none of them has had their 'own' place yet--renting rooms in other people's houses, but housing's too damned much here!
2006-11-08 03:25:15
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answered by LogicalReason 3
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