Thanksgiving is a day we celebrate without realizing the celebration is one based on a false pretense of pilgrims and native americans coming together in a feast of thanks. Of course this not being so but the truth being that native americans land was taken they were tortured,dehuminized, and killed....
So I say why do we celebrate a day that is simply hypocritical to give thanks that the native americans land was stolen a land which is being polluted and resources are being wasted without replenishment.
What do you think of this appalling day did you ever think to understand the true meaning behind this day?
2006-11-07 10:59:22 · 12 answers · asked by Happy2bAlive 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Other - Cultures & Groups
Whisperin eagle and Pirate00... your words were very well put......
To those of you who thought I was promoting racisim towards whites I was only trying to point out how ppl don't know that this celebration of Thanksgiving Day is a sugarcoated lie.
I appreciate everyones feedback I just wanted to make ppl take a minute to think about this.
Its important to remember the truth in respect to our ancestors.
2006-11-07 14:54:06 · update #1
soon after the pilgrims arrived, they ran out of food and were eating foods that were making them sick. such as skunks, buzzards, etc. the pequot people were the natives of that area. they took pity on the pilgrims and taught them what foods they could grow, and which animals they could eat. they shared seeds and animals with them to get them started. the thanksgiving feast took place in an effort to show the pilgrim ppl how to prepare the foods of the "new world."
the pequot ppl served the pilgrims, they did not sit side-by-side and eat together...that's a fairy tale. several days after the feast, the pilgrims attacked the pequot village and killed all the ppl living there...close to 200 men, women, and children. they took everything from the village that they could use to survive with.
in my family, we refuse to celebrate this day of genocide. we just eat a regular meal...for years we used to fast on this day, to honor the pequot nation. we don't hate non-indian ppl. but we don't ever forget their hateful deeds against us, mostly in the name of christianity.
the ppl who make statements such as, "that happened hundreds of years ago. get over it." don't know the meaning of collective memory.
tantay to all ppl (peace)
2006-11-07 11:29:14 · answer #1 · answered by pirate00girl 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Okay so i never thought of it that way. Have you ever thought that maybe we are celebrating the fact that the Indians were the bigger people and shared with our ANCESTORS. This first Thanksgiving was before all the horrific things that our ANCESTORS did to them.We sure had a great way of repaying them. You people make me absolutely crazy WHY WHY WHY does everything have to be a political statement. Why do people take good decent things like Thanksgiving and try to make them into something evil? Why can't we just enjoy life. Why does everybody have to sit around and whine all day because of things that, while terrible, happened a long time ago? Maybe you should think of this as a celebration of people who really were caring and sharing. The Natives helped our forefathers, get through the winter, if not for them, the pilgrims would not have made it through that first winter, and America would not be the great nation that it is today.
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Oh and Kharm, America is the most powerful and the greatest nation in the world, because we realized what we did wrong and we chnged the problem. We were willing to admit that we made a mistake and stopped. We rose above the terrible things in our past. We got back to the reason this country was formed in the first place and made ourselves better. We are not perfect, we will NEVER be perfect. How dare you compare America to the NAZI's, maybe there were people in our history who acted that way, but not everyone and not anymore. We have come along way in the last 100 years. America IS the GREATEST nation in the world, because of what we stand for. Oh and if you hate America so much, then why are you still here? Last I checked, we are free to leave anytime we want.
2006-11-07 11:16:02 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Kia Sister...just when exactly did the white man CHANGE anything they did wrong? You are full of it if you honestly believe this. You said that, as well as others, the pilgrims shared a peaceful time in the beginning? SO wrong. The pilgrims were being deceptive and plotting the whole time. Or didn't you know that? Either way, any NDN will tell you what the day means. We don't celebrate thanksgiving. We do have a feast on Friday, but it has absolutely nothing to do with pilgrims or what happened back then. We are celebrating the harvest moon. I think people don't realize what the day is either. I know a lot of black people that celebrate it for the right reasons (half of my family is black, the other half Cherokee). If you are going to give thanks, why not do it everyday and not isolate just one day out of a year to do this?
2006-11-07 14:02:48 · answer #3 · answered by Miss P. Square Pinky Swear 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Pilgrims we're "celebrating" were kind to the natives. Here's a link providing the history behind the "holiday". I'm not saying the tortures you're speaking of didn't happen, I'm just saying what's wrong with celebrating a time when the groups got along?
Oh! And Abraham Lincoln declared Thanksgiving because he felt the soldiers needed time to stop fighting and give thanks to God. I believe the whole "Pilgrim" refrence came 100 years AFTER the First Declaration of Thanksgiving. So, it's really a holiday to stop fighting and thank God. I see no problem with that.
2006-11-07 13:22:29 · answer #4 · answered by teeney1116 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
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2016-10-03 09:47:02 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
actuallly at the time of the first thanksgiving the pilgrims and the indians lived fairly peacefully. the indians even helped the pilgrims survive in a foreign new land. it wasnt until later the Indians were pushed back, so, what we are celebrating is that original thanksgiving when peace was possible, and they were thankfull for it, now the meaning transcends the wrongs of the past, and makes us think on the posistive in life as to what we are thankfull for.
Yes, Americans screwed the Indians, but, that has nothing to do with thanksgiving.
2006-11-07 11:09:39 · answer #6 · answered by NNY 6 · 4⤊ 1⤋
I don't celebrate it because of the centuries of massacre, or the oppression. I celebrate it because it is really the only time I think about what I am thankful for. With the way my life has been lately, it's good to find anything to be thankful for.
I do think that celebrating the white men coming over would be stupid. Seriously people, genocide? I wonder how many people know the Nazi's studied our practices with the Natives when figuring out to do with the Jews. You want to know why America is celebrated but the Nazi's aren't? We're the ones in power.
2006-11-07 11:09:34 · answer #7 · answered by Kharm 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Maybe half true and half not true.
You ready to give your house and land back and relocate somewhere else, like back to Europe!
Remember, the Indians got even with Casinos and many of them make FAR more WHAMPUM then WHITE GUYS!
But your point is well taken.
White people and espeically Christians haven't the best of history, of course if I say this it will get deleted along with your question, as a racial slur agaisnt white people.
It happened before with blacks when I mentioned we (white christians) made them sit in the blaconys. Yahoo has a problem with these kinds of statements...
2006-11-07 11:14:10 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
In my family Thanksgiving is more important than Christmas. Why? Because its the only holiday that is actually about family and giving thanks. We don't include anything about pilgrims or natives because that isn't what Thanksgiving means to us. To us, it means being happy that our family gets to sit together and eat. We are grateful to be alive.
It is simple and sweet and lacks the problems associated with Christmas (buying gifts, maxing out credit cards, telling lies to children and for what? To celebrate the birth of Christ when Christ's importance was in his life and death. His birth is unimportant).
No pilgrims or indians touch our discussions nor shall they ever. We take the day and do with it as we will.
2006-11-07 11:10:09 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Well we don't ever give it any thought at all. Thanksgiving is a time for family for us nothing else,well maybe football.LOL
2006-11-07 11:13:36 · answer #10 · answered by chesva58 2 · 2⤊ 2⤋