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Logically, what cause people to be gay? There is no evidence, no real research anywhere in the world that ever backs it up that anybody is born gay, it's always a big "MAYBE". For now, it's just something that people wanna believe in because they heard someone say it, the more they focus on it, the more it becomes embedded in their mind. They use it as an excuse in arguments, either to make themselves feel better since they don't wanna accept/remember the truth or they use it cause that's the only thing that's not embarrassing (why embarrassed, that's what u want & chose to do). If anyone here has a real proof, then I'll accept it. The argument of "god made me that way" is ridiculous, doesn't make sense on its own cause if that was the case, it would b as clear as a man having a penis/a woman having a vagina, the 2 fitting together for the purpose mainly of procreating, if it was as natural as that, it wouldn't even require a research as it would be as natural as every god's creation.

2006-11-07 05:42:36 · 32 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender

Just for clarification, my question did not lean towards any religion or quote from the bible. The only reason why I mentioned the word "God" was simply because I was quoting all of the gay people who said "god made me/us that way" and I just elaborated on that.

2006-11-07 06:37:54 · update #1

32 answers

The best understanding now is that gays are born this way.

What are the causes of people becoming a christian and persecuting gays?

2006-11-07 05:49:08 · answer #1 · answered by a_blue_grey_mist 7 · 5 5

Hmmm, This is exactly how I feel about god, and Jesus. There is no real evidence, the research is all hear say. It was always a big "MAYBE". It just something people wanna believe in because the heard someone say it, the more they focus on it, the more it becomes embedded in their mind. They use it as an excuse in arguments, either to make themselves feel better since they don't wanna accept the truth or they use it cause that's the only thin that not embarrassing to be loving and accepting people. The argument of "god made me that way" well where is he? he wasn't even here when I was born. This is ridiculous and doesn't make sense on its on cause there is no proof. As for what is natural, the heart is fonder than everything, love... If I don't love someone why would I want to puzzle together something that doesn't feel natural to me? because I should submit? Yuck.

2006-11-07 05:57:39 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2 4

As you say, let's use logic.
You are correct, there is no clear proof of it being a trait we are born with; some partial evidence, such as common genetic markers, but nothing conclusive.

There is, however, even less evidence in favour of any posited environmental cause; no common set of environmental conditions have been found to account for a statistically relevant proportion of homosexuals.

Given marginal evidence in favour of one possibility and no evidence in favour of the other, the Logical answer is "we don't know, but the first possibility seems more likely at this time." To state with certainty either way is fundamentally illogical. (Yet we see the anti-gays stating with certainty that it is a choice at least as often, if not moreso, as we see homosexuals stating with certainty that it is something they were born with.)

What we *do* know is that other animals, whom we consider incapable of making conscious choices (particularly about morality,) also exhibit homosexual or bisexual behaviour. Among sheep there are members who are exclusively homosexual, though primates tend more towards bisexuality (oddly, the Christian faith often calls us to be as sheep, with God as the shepherd... and not as monkeys.)
This makes a case that whatever the cause may be, it is not inherently unnatural - after all, it occurrs spontaneously in nature.

As for the research being done on it... much research has also been done on male pattern baldness, which is known to be genetic. Not as much research has been done on sinistralism (left-handedness,) but there has been some; and while we do not know the cause of that yet, it is something that has moved from being socially unacceptable to something which is simply accepted as inconsequential. (Unless you play baseball, in which case it's a strategic consideration.)

2006-11-07 07:16:21 · answer #3 · answered by angiekaos 3 · 0 1

I'm in the self-determination camp personally, but as a matter of perspective, should Freud and some of those similar be correct in their stages of social development beginning in infantcy, it is possible to perceive that it looks that way--that they were born homosexual. But that is not to say that they factually are, just that some of the roots of associative preference have their beginnings in the crib (sorry, rarely the womb, but there are factors that begin there too, like if you've got an extra long ring finger you were likely exposed to extra testosterone from your mother in the womb, but the connection of which way you fall afterwards is not proven simply because homosexuality is only about 3 percent of the population, making the connection a statistical problem).

Then there is the teleological fallacy that goes with 'since men have a penis and women a vagina' the only obvious connection is to match those two--there are seemingly carniverous animals with teeth one would assume to go on carnivores, but the closest things to animal meat that they eat is bugs. Additionally, we don't just mate to procreate, like a stag and doe in rut, so the desire for sexual release extends beyond having a mate in season. I suspect it is a population pressure release, males mating with males, vice versa, don't produce offspring. It may be that in our developmental stages, some folks looked at the male-female mating dance and all it entails and said it was too complex, too complicated, and or envolved too many personal responsibilities of reproduction.

Your's is a fair question, but it is still a big "maybe" because of the range and scope of factors, and there is no concensus on the answer, sorry.

2006-11-07 06:09:49 · answer #4 · answered by Rabbit 7 · 0 2

Something can't be answered with only right and wrong or just only one way. To some people, it may feel they are born gay. And for others, it is a choice. Everyone makes their own choices whether to accept that they are gay or try to live like they aren't. Love is a connection between two people and when you find it, it doesn't matter who it's with. All the love and feelings that people have for each other is really what being happy is about. People should accept and respect the choice of being gay/lesbian and not judge them based on what makes them happy. Don't try to solve something that doesn't need to be explained. Let people live the way they want to live with what makes them happy.

2006-11-07 06:07:40 · answer #5 · answered by wickedxwaysxtoxcry 1 · 2 2

I agree with you on some points. You have to be careful how you ask this question because some people can't handle sensitive questions without getting their g-strings in a wad.

I do believe that people choose to be gay, I don't believe they were born that way. You are fooling yourself if you think all homosexuals are hiding something. We could argue that due to your question you are dumb, but we don't have enough proof yet so we won't come to any conclusions.

On another point, I too can't understand why people worry so much about it. If you want to do that, go ahead, but at the same time, if I want to be against it its my right. I don't have to accept it just as you don't have to accept my beliefs or ideas. I think too much of a fuss has been made up about it already. There will be no resolution as the world is full of ignorant people on both sides of the argument. "Can't we all just get along?"

2006-11-07 05:58:50 · answer #6 · answered by backdoc 3 · 1 3

Ok I don't know if some people would born "gay" or not... but That doesn't matter. Let me tell you something, there is no such thing as a gay community in other countries. Gays had been irradiated, by social discrimination. They died out, and so there's no such thing as homosexual anymore. The United States on the other hand, embraces gay culture, "it's ok to be gay" wtf is that??? Second point... It's the parents' fault for not notice their child's "illness".


They don't know how to educate their child from the early days. I mean just for example... you see your son only hangout with girls, there're 2 possibilities you need to know...1/ Either your son is a real pimp/player (which is too young for...) or 2/ He's really feminine...

In my opinion, people WANT to be gay. There's no such thing as born gay...and let's just say a person is "Born gay", that person knows it better than anyone else that he better somehow fix himself and turn more masculine.

Question... How come majority of the gay folks are always wimpy, fragile like girls, skinny hells? Go to the gym, work out, and grow some freakin ballls.

2006-11-07 05:52:25 · answer #7 · answered by Holland 1 · 1 4

The cause is the same one that gave me my blue eyes. Genetics, good sir, is the answer. Predispositions, I assume, come into play as well. Like a genetic predisposition to become tall. There have been hundreds of documented cases of animals exhibiting homosexual behavior. It's very real; it's not something that is made up or pretending into existence. For the life of me, I don't understand homosexuality either. But I don't understand a lot of things, like the Big Bang, for example. Does that mean it didn't happen because I can't wrap my mind around it? You pretend to know God's plan, but how do you know what it is? No one has exclusive rights. God loves wonderous variety.

2006-11-07 05:52:52 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 4

There actually is genetic evidence, while not proving being "born" gay, gives you pause to think. The chromosones in our bodies can go far out of whack sexually speaking as they can in any other genetic disorder. Do you think the gonads are exempt from this? There have been instances of women born with "XXX" rather than the regular "XX" pairing of sex chromosomes. As well, documented, "XXY" and "XYY" chromosone pairings have been found. There are androgynous people in the world, who do have both sets of genitalia. Are they mistakes of God? Have they no souls? How do you think that they are motivated when it comes to deciding who to love?

OK that's the genetic side of things. (My biology text)

On the social side of things. As Freud suggested as part of the development of the ID, we all go through what he calls an "anal/oral" stage, which happens around 2 or 3 years old. Now (and not just for this stage), some people have been know to fixate onto this stage, where they healthily explored every nook and cranny of their bodies. I theorize that this may be an influence.

Other factors that occur, and they are myriad, is when sexual development happens. At the same time, although many people do not acknowledge this, we are beginning to label others and ourselves, trying to find a way through life by finding our place within it. If we have been told constantly that "you're gay" or "you're a pretty boy" or something to that effect, we start wondering how others look at us and how we should look at ourselves. Also, another factor to consider is the general state of rebellion in the average teenager, and the assertions one must make inorder to survive on this planet. Another factor is how one veiws the men and women in their lives as they grew up. A great many gay men share several common factors in their upbringing such as absent or negative male influence coupled with strong/overbearing female influences.

In listening to some personal revelations from self-proclaimed gay men and women, there were a few that from the very beginning realized that they were different, but didn't know it what way until they reached high-school. I'm sure there's a place in everyone's life, whether they are straight or gay, where they wondered about it at least. I know for a fact that I loved bows and arrows, guns and sports just as much as my brothers (when I was a kid) and my parents didn't forbid me from climbing trees and racing barefoot down the gravel alley. I can punch the living daylights out of anyone who tries to fight me. I'm definitely not a shy little girl, yet at the same time, I loved playing with teddy bears, dolls, barbies, board games and I cried at the drop of a hat if something sad happened, and my brothers would scare the living daylights out of me if given half the chance. Trust me, I didn't have a lot of respect for men by the time I reached "marriageable" age. But I knew I was a girl and I loved being a girl and I dreampt of being a mom with kids. When we played in the leaves, we'd rake them into the shape of a floor plan of a house, and I'd be the mom and my brother would be the dad, and my little sister our baby. I was very bossy, and my brother didn't like it much I guess, but that was my scenario.

Feelings of falling in love, of wanting to protect the person you love are very powerful feelings when you are a teenager. No one can tell you how to feel it. Sometimes I wonder if indeed, Cupid's bow just shoots you and you fall in love with the first person you see. It is very difficult to overcome those powerful feelings, no matter which direction you take, and sometimes trying to get rid of them makes you think about them all the more.

Do you understand how complex this is?

2006-11-07 06:24:18 · answer #9 · answered by Shinigami 7 · 1 3

It is something that we are born with and there is no decision whatsoever. Do straight people 'choose' to be that way? Do you choose whether you are left or right-handed? I don't think so.

God created each one of us the way He wanted to and loves each one of us the way we are. That is how we should all learn to love one another.

2006-11-07 06:32:47 · answer #10 · answered by Michael 2 · 0 1

It is genetics in a way. Its just how your brain works. Some people like one thing, others like another. Being gay is not something people do because others are doing it. Do you have ANY idea how hard it really is to be gay. If you had any idea, you would know for certain that it is not a choice. I've had breakdowns, suicide attempts and so forth in the course of my coming to terms with my sexuality. It took me a long time to accept it. I tried to be straight, I wanted to be straight. Its not that easy. Please, think before you speak. Thank you.

2006-11-07 05:48:39 · answer #11 · answered by Ophelia 2 · 3 4

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