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Shouldnt we as a free country ban this mediavial garment.

It really is a bit much to say that men cant control themselves if they see a females face.

It reminds me of what Victorian Britain used to be like with it being a scandel if a woman showed her ankles.

Shouldnt Muslim woman in Britain and the U.S.A make a stand against this man made rule to cover up?

2006-11-05 07:56:09 · 31 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Other - Cultures & Groups

In a free country only the laws of the land need to be followed.not man made religious rules.

2006-11-05 08:00:23 · update #1

31 answers

I absolutely agree that people have the right to wear what they want in a free country, but if that item causes unease to others it should be common sense to those insisting upon wearing it, that they will be causing concern to people around them.
I could not for example walk down the street wearing a balaclava without arising suspicion and should accept that that is the situation.
I have no issue with a turban, or with anyone displaying their religion through what they wear, but when your doing so puts me on edge, because I don't know what is going on behind the 'mask', that is where I think the line should be drawn.
How do I know for example that the person in front of me, the only part of whom I can see is their eyes, is not a man who might attack me, is not someone carrying a weapon??? How do I know that? Anyone, could wear this outfit, non-muslims too, because they are able to hide behind it.
As a secondary point, if we were to go to a muslim country we would be made to wear the outfit, even though it is not our culture or religion, and if we did not we would be stoned to death. So don't be telling me that we are not tolerent of other cultures!!

2006-11-05 08:13:47 · answer #1 · answered by DeeEm 2 · 1 0

YES TOTALLY AGREE.... If you go to a country that has this medieval rule you will have to cover up or you will end up in jail. Why is it then that they can flout UK laws blaming it on Islamaphobia and not realise they should act according to the country and it's rules that they are in.
To say men cannot control their emotions seeing a Muslim woman's face is farcical.
If the 'hoodie' is banned then why should these people be given special rights... that is the sort of thing that promotes and encourages racism. It is a horrible thing to have your head virtually completely covered anyhow.. you try it and there is no fun there...... it can also be claustrophobic. Also, if women have to obey the veil rule how come the men can dress as any other westerner. In this country it is quite clearly sexual discrimination and if the perpetrators were white it would be stamped on immediately....
I think it has a lot to do with authorities trying not to appear racist....


Charlie....

2006-11-05 16:09:37 · answer #2 · answered by my_pants_are_inside_out 2 · 1 0

Well, I don't see what the difference is between a woman wearing a scarf and hat because it's snowing and a woman wearing a scarf and hat because her religion requires it.

On the one hand it would make make-up a lot easier, because you don't have to put any on, nor do you have to do anything to your hair. Which kind of evens out the playing field.

However, I get the sense that it's all about power. One of a woman's sources of power is her sensuality. It seems that even that little power is too much. To imply though, that a woman's sensuality is so powerful that a man can't control himself... that's just funny.

Even though it's supposed to be a positive thing for the woman to be cherished and sheltered, it feels more like they are presents, that can only be opened at home. Again, kind of turns women into non-entities.

So yes, Muslim women should gain some power of their own.

2006-11-05 16:04:19 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Omg man
How dare you try to tell me to take off my scarf? You are telling me that i'm forced by men. I grew up in the US and was born here too. Most of my life i never wore a scarf. I was raised to dress modestly though. When i turned fifteen i got the courage to wear it in this American ignorant society. I'm not saying all Americans are ignorant (i after all am a natural born American) but some are like hmm lets say mmmm YOU. Its not a medieval garment. it is my religion. I am respected by it from people who understand it. In fact today a boy tapped me on the shoulder and said that its beautiful that i wear my scarf and am true to myself. Muslim women don't necessarily have to cover their face. its just that some want to and some do not find the need. The Quran just says to cover your hair and body with and outer garment. Its not only about seeing the woman's face, its about the image and attitude it sends. If you understood the wearing of the scarf (which at your intelligent rate you probably shall be a bit slow) you would see how respectful it is. I'm sure you must not have had pleasant experiences with it for you to look upon it so negatively when us women love it. You must have only seen women with big black cloaks down to their ankles and only their eyes showing. That is not exactly the best way and brings many misconceptions to dumb Americans but hey, its their choice and you're very contradicting, Mister, to ban us from practicing our religion because of ignorance or fear of the scarves and outer garments.
But maybe you are right. free me and ban me from practicing my beloved faith.
Peace : )

2006-11-06 21:53:36 · answer #4 · answered by dreams 3 · 0 0

What those women wear is not strictly a veil - a veil is a semi-opaque garment designed to blur the appearance of a woman`s face to promote mystery.
The hajib is NOT a veil but a face-cover or mask.
Yes the West is a free-society and a woman should be allowed to wear exactly what she wants BUT the majority of hajib-wearers do not do it from their real choice but simply because the "tradition" has been ingrained into them by centuries of oppression.
As a man myself I`m in favour of the hajib - there are MANY MANY ugly white ,black and yellow women out there that can only benefit from wearing it.
But seriously if a woman goes to a Muslim country she MUST cover her head in many areas - see Camilla in her travel to Pakistan - so technically a Muslim woman if living here in the West by choice SHOULD "de-veil".Many of them claim to be British or american or whatever so off with the mask - I`m sure this male can control HIS urges.
We`ve had stories in the press of male terrorists hiding behind the "veil" to attempt escape so now is the time to at least join the 20th century LOL (yes I know we`re in the 21st now).

2006-11-05 18:32:46 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Covering your hair = religious reason. As part of the Islamic code of conduct (incl modesty) a muslim woman should cover her hair all body parts (in loose-fitting, non-sheer fabric). She is allowed to show her face, hands and feet.

Covering your face = cultural reason. Think this has come from the Arab community (although i know a lot of Indian women who practice this as well).

I think it's important to note that women have a CHOICE in wearing these garments (ok, so SOME of them have to because of their upbringing where it's just expected). It's not fair to criticise them for the way they dress and say that they're oppressed. If people insist that muslim women change the way they dress (that is, against their will), would they (that is, the non-Muslims) not be the oppressor?

It is the freedom to practice their religion openly that liberates them. Criticism of their beliefs and practices is oppression.

2006-11-06 12:15:42 · answer #6 · answered by MM 3 · 0 0

of course, no man should be able to compel a woman to do anything but the argument goes that the women choose to do this. so, we have to refrain from banning something that women may be doing of their own free will. if they do choose to in western society i think it's quite disrespectful. non muslim women should be equally disrespectful in so called islamic countries and refuse to cover up in the way that the men insist. but, if they did that they would be taking their lives in their hands and risk stoning. islam wins all ways. we have to break that, it's just not right.

2006-11-05 16:09:50 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I'm with John S. In Islamic countries we are told not to wear shorts and for women to cover up almost completely.

Why should we allow the veil if it's not allowed in Islamic countries for us to dress how we do in our country?

We have laws against sexism over here and this is just blatant subjugation and as such should be illegal.

2006-11-05 16:06:40 · answer #8 · answered by Martin G 4 · 1 0

I would think so but poor Muslim women have been beaten down by men for so long they are like abused children. Men who beat women like they do in the Islamic countries and use rape to control them aren't much of human beings if you ask me.
I can't stand to have anything covering my face for more than I have to in the hospital. I would not wear a veil.
They need to come out of the stone age and join the 21st century and be kinder to the women.

2006-11-05 16:04:13 · answer #9 · answered by greylady 6 · 3 1

Only reason the veil has now caused uproar is because of the recent media attention,but logically how can children be taught in a school,english of all lessons, by a teacher covered head to toe with slits for their eyes? how will they learn expressions and mouth shapes as they were primary school age, if these women wish to honor their mens wishes, so be it, iswhen it impacts like it did at the school should it be questioned, each to their own,everyone has their own opinion its when it affects others seriously should it be judged

2006-11-05 17:53:16 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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