Surely this is like having a black person wanting to join the Klan and arguing that the Klan should modernise or that the Klan charter can be interpreted in a way that makes it not racists.
The Bible is supposedly the word of God and stands for all time, unless God has the feminine perogative of changing her mind and therefore either you follow all the rules or you find something else to do. I don't play a game of chess and say that I'll only follow the rules of chess that suit me.
Surely gay men and women should form a new religion that does not explicitly prohibit homosexuality based on a prophet called Elvira La TrixieBelle or something even more unlikely like John Smith instead of whining on all the time that they want to be Christians.
2006-11-05
02:04:15
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I can't believe why anyone would give me a thumbs down just for asking a contentious questions, surely this is what Yahoo is for or all we would get is, "Are Dalmations really cute?" The question is pretty straight forward and I am not questioning a person's right to follow a religion but asking why someone would want to join a club that does not really want them as a member. I also don't believe the rubbish about interpretation, because the bible is quite explicit in these matters and prohibits these activities, you cannot claim that it was actually about darning socks in the original Aramaic and it was explicitly prohibited to darn socks but was mistranslated because I for one will not buy it.
2006-11-05
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My dear friend,
I totally agree with your question. See many gay people, and backed by many scientist, believe they were born gay. This makes them look at religion for answers.
And like everyone, many gay people grow believing in God and religion. In fact, God would have probably been the first one they would have approached begged for help. From that point religion becomes a very important part of their lives and the way they would explain existence and life after death. That peaceful feeling of knowing that by being a good person and never hurting anyone, one day they will be rewarded and see all their loved ones on the otherside is the hard to give up! In fact, it has a very addictive characteristic. One philosopher once said: "You have to be a brave man to say God does not exist!" It is like saying, when you die is like when you switch a TV off in the middle of your favourite movie, and that is that!
Years of growing up learning about religion - some may call it brain washing - is not an easy thing to give up. So they dwell on their religion hoping that somewhere along the line, someone made a mistake. In short, they tend to be good people looking for acceptance. And that does not only apply to people born as gay Christians, but also those born as gay Jews and gay Muslims.
2006-11-05 20:20:37
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answered by Fadi S 2
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Basically all the anti-gay stuff is in the old testament.
A lot of what Jesus teaches contradicts the old testament. This is obviously because the teachings of Jesus supersede the old testament.
Jesus gave us one Great Commandment:
“I give you a new commandment: love one another; just as I have loved you, you also should love one another” (John 13:34).
It is pretty clear from this that Jesus loves everyone and that he would not hate someone because they are gay.
You can basically follow the policies of the old testament OR those of Jesus:
You can not take an eye for an eye while turning the other cheek.
They are mutually exclusive and personally I would choose the love and harmony Jesus taught to us over the more brutal approach in the old testament.
2006-11-05 19:21:44
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answered by monkeymanelvis 7
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obviously you've never read the bible. jesus's followers were the outcasts, the prostitutes, gays, lepers etc etc. God loves us all and he NEVER said homosexuality is wrong, there's even a gay male union in the bible (start reading it's in there) leviticus is a list of mans laws, it also says eating shellfish and wearing two types of cloth together are abominations, plus it tells you how to treat slaves, how to kill adulterous wives and disobedient children (stoning) polygomy was expected for the men, and it told what price to get when you sell you're unwanted daughters. as far as it goes you can't corner the market on christianity and by judging other peoples desire to have a loving relationship with God , it is you who are on the path to hell.....guilty in judgement of others, romans 2:1 , only God can judge romans 8:33 , and most importantly Jesus came to save not to judge , john 12:47
2006-11-05 13:53:24
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answered by Anonymous
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But it's really not your business who wants to be Christian. Have you counted how many types of Christians there are? They all go by the same book, and they disagree with each other vehemently on lots of things -- baptism, the sabbath, tithing, confession, fasting, etc., etc.! The Bible is only man's take on God and morality, reflecting the traditions of the time it was written. Christians and Jews ignore parts of the Bible that they choose not to follow (and have lots of excuses for doing that), so they have no right to ask gays to justify their Christianity, do they?
2006-11-05 10:11:52
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answered by PT's Swan Lake 3
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One of these days God is going to come back, and if Christians do not get a grip and understand that God loves all, ALL...Well, let's put it this way, when God comes back, boy will she be pis**t off!
Christianity would not be so bad if it weren't for the two faced ones saying gayness is wrong while they are wishing to give a good bumming to all the cute choir boys and old male prostitutes. Good old Bro Haggard, now that's one for the books, and there are many more like him!
2006-11-05 12:26:32
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answered by Charles-CeeJay_UK_ USA/CheekyLad 7
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If a Sad ( like Sad-ist) person wants to be a Christian, then he/she should be led to churches that have deliverance ministries. There are people who are alcoholics. The strong spirit has taken over their bodies and they want to be freed.
similarly homosexuality is a spirit--usually many thousands because these days there are hardly ever any cases where a person is possed by one spirit anymore. I have listed the most comprehensive books before on deliverance. I am sure you can check my previous posts. After a while you get sort of tired of repeating the same things over and over.
Boaz.
Boaz.
2006-11-05 10:14:03
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answered by Boaz 4
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I've always felt grateful for being gay, just because it opened my eyes to the hypocrisy of the church. You learn that maybe these people aren't automatically right about everything, which is the single most important lesson anybody can learn about religion. Well, hopefully you learn that. Some people wind up internalizing that bigotry and ignorance and turning on themselves. It's really a test of character. You can only pity the gay guy who tries to "reform" himself because he's bowed to pressure from so-called "religious" people who think they'd prefer him to be other than what he is by nature. He's doomed to misery in this life on the belief that there's supposed to be some "reward" for his self-denial in some postulated next life.
I've done some research on certain dispicable "christian" websites, and when it comes to the gay issue, you actually see a lot of them saying things like "Even though they use the term 'gay' to describe themselves, he suicide rate is 4 times higher for people who live the homosexual lifestyle." As if this has nothing to do with the fact that gay people are literally driven to suicide by a$$holes who think they're acting in the interests of "righteousness" - or who just use the social and religious taboo to justify their irrational hatred.
Well, not me. The truth HAS set me free. And again, I'm grateful that it's been given to me to understand that I don't need to place my "faith" in notorious fairy tales in order to be happy and fulfilled.
2006-11-05 10:12:49
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answered by jonjon418 6
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I was raised Christian, and I still AM a Christian. I was taught that Christians are loving and accepting, not judgmental, not people who preach intolerance and hatred. what church is it that you went to that teaches you this?
God created and loves us all, and He makes no mistakes! If God didn't make homosexuals, there wouldn't be any! and many churches openly accept their gay/lesbian parishioners....because it's the right thing to do!
those who "use" the Bible to justify their bigotry are NOT true Christians!
2006-11-05 15:07:36
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answered by redcatt63 6
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ROFLMAO!!
I suppose the whole thing about Jesus returning and doing away with Leviticus's laws means nothing.
Whatever. You are still insisting that your interpretation is the only one, and in that, you miss the entire point.
Go on believing whatever it is that you wish. Posting the question and adding the disclaimer/explanation that you have makes your "question" rhetorical at best, simply another type of attack at worst.
You've gotten the answers you deserved regardless as to whether you think the response is what you imagined they would be or not.
2006-11-05 10:56:00
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answered by IndyT- For Da Ben Dan 6
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There is a difference between a Christian and a child of God. I'm a lesbian and a Child of God. So stop generalizing.
2006-11-07 04:44:12
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answered by PROPHET 4
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