Why are people acting like Saddam's death has been ordered by Bush and Blair?

Question

He's been tried in an Iraqi court under Iraqi law and its their decision to hang him. The UK doesn't even have the death penalty!

I'm not saying I was ever for the war in Iraq but it seems the Iraqis have decided on this one, I don't see its a case of the "West" killing him at all.

I'm sure plenty of Kurds would want him dead after what he did to them. Perhaps he should just be thrown to the Kurds and let them do the job?

I'm not sayng I think he should die - I think its a bit severe to be honest although I know the Shias and Kurds will be glad to see the back of him. Plus he was tried in an Iraqi court not in the UK or US. So its up to them what they do with him.

Didn't know that it was American election time I guess that could have influenced it.

Answer 1

I am American but it is very naive to think they didn't have a major role in this...The puppet regime had repeatedly changed judges because judges were being to lenient to the defense.

Answer 2

Simply, the so-called government of Iraq was elected under the guns of foreign troops. The city of Falujah, for example, cast no votes in the election, and not because they abstained, but because the US troops had levelled the housing, hospitals, and bridges of the city, its residents put in refugee/concentration camps, and they were not allowed to vote because they had no address.
The court was appointed by the government, and is therefore as corrupt as the government. Also, the trial commenced before the election, and represented the will of the occupying forces, not the 'democratically elected' government.
As for the Kurds, you clearly do not understand world affairs, nor read news from outside your own country. The Kurdish region borders Turkey, and when Iraq was formed Kurdistan was partitioned, part going to Turkey, part to Iraq. Earlier this year, Kurdish terrorists crossed from Iraq and bombed Turkey, yet again, before slipping back under the wing of their protectors, the US army. Kurdish terrorism has been an increasing problem in the South East of Europe, particularly along the Meditaranean Coast. Attacks are carried out every couple of months in Turkey and Greece, including the murder of a UK diplomat with a car bomb only 18 months ago.
So much for the war on terror, when the US protects terrorists attacking its allies, but some things never change, and the day Americans stop paying terrorists will be the day Hell finally freezes over.

Answer 3

Good point. Who's in charge in Iraq? Is it a puppet regime?
And are the puppet manipulators about to cut the strings?

The President of Iraq is Kurdish, and a former Judge at Saddam's trial was from Halabja.

However, since Shia Muslims also suffered under Saddam, and most Iraqi Kurds are Sunni Muslims there is still a long way to go before the situation stabilises - with or without the USA and the UK.

Answer 4

No, this is not a court constructed and ruled under Iraqi law. At the time this was put together and the trial started there WAS no Iraqi government. Paul Bremer and the Provisional Authority created the statutes which created and govern this court, not the Iraqi people, in any way.

This is not in the Iraqi court system, this trial is taking place in the "Iraq Special Tribunal" which is not recognized by the UN or most European Union nations as a legitimate entity.

This is not to say that it is illegitimate, or can't render a legitimate verdict under what there was of Iraqi law at the time. Nurenberg was a special tribunal, but there is a basis for people to claim this entire proceeding is a creature created by the West.

Answer 5

Woudl it not seem fair to you that the trial is a puppt court of Bush's administration and that the Iraqi delegation selected to try him was chosen by a bunch of Yanks and Brits?

Would it not seem fair to people that the fact is, the US and Britain decided to invade Iraq wthout a Mandate and through lies and deception that was eventually uncovered and Bush/Blair had to publicly admit to - despuite claiming so many times before the war that there was uncomprimisable and soluid proof of Sadam having WOMD - and that thes two leaders have deceived two nations that initially did back the effort?

Does it nnot seem possible that people will find some element of blame for the execution of Sadam in Blair and Bush... if not Solely Bush?

I'm not saying that they are to blame, but he wouldn't be where he is today if nothing was done.

But it was done in the wrong way, for the wrong reasons and look at the number of dead coming home today.... just look!

WAS IT WORTH IT`? WILL IT EVER BE?

Thisis a society and culture that doesn't want western influence or direction... let them get on with killing each other and be done with it... they aren't affecting us are tehy?
The only reason that war took place was over Oil and other natural resources... everyone knowsthat... Bush and Blair owe us all millions! not to mention the thousands of lives lost since the invasion!

Answer 6

It has everything to do with Bush and Blair. They attacked
Irag on the pretext that Irag was connected to 9/11 plot
but no concrete evidence was found. No atomic materials
were found either. So, 2 leaders from 2 of the greatest
nations attacked a smaller nation and set up a kangaroo
court with biased judges et al to look like a proper judgement. This is a blatant insult to my intelligence as
well as to the American and British public. Iam sad and
for the first time in my life ashamed to be British.
I dislike Saddam and for what he is but not to the extant
as to want him dead. Saddam as head of state did what
he thought was right for his nation like every other heads
of state. Saddam's death would probably unite the islamic
states against the rest of the world and I for one will not
be the least surprised.

Answer 7

Well, let's see ...
The US invaded Iraq
The US captured Saddam and held him until the trial began
The US oversaw the creation of the government in Iraq (vetoing many local propositions)
The US controlled the appointment of the judiciary
The US monitors the trial
Umm, if it was me, I'd probably think the US had something more than idle interest in the outcome of old Shaddap's denoument. I understand Dubya has a ringside for the coup-de-gras, and plans to video it for continuous play in the Bush Presidential Library's atrium.
No question, Saddam was a bad bad man. So are many world leaders. It's almost a prerequisite for the job. So ask yourself why we chose to single out Iraq for the special treatment?
Could it be because Daddybush botched the job - first as CIA director and then as President?
We'll probably never know. After all, we can't expect the pathological liars in the administration to come clean.

Answer 8

duh! i mean coz thats what's true!
everyone (outside the US of course) knows that the current iraqi govt is just a sham - a puppet govt of uncle sam

what bugs me more is that the saddam era was much better than the post-saddam era ... how many ppl was saddam charged to have murdered? 148? well its 148,000 if u see after the US-invasion.. kinda makes u feel the saddam era was better...

whats worse? an iraqi shia writes in to bbc's have your say program and says that the secular govt of saddam was far better than the sectarian govt now

and finally... why dont they try bush for war crimes? why doesnt he get tried for all the abuses in iraq, afghanistan, vietnam, guantanamo that he, his govt and his army openly conducted? what about the indirect abuses he has been carrying on through other nations and agencies? why doesnt he get tried?!

having said all this i sincerely believe that if u have the slightest of common sense you'll believe that saddam's death HAS to do sumin with US and the occupying forces in iraq...

Answer 9

Are we ....gees the Iraq's decided on this one ...... if it was up to them he would have been shot on sight unfortunately it wasn't ........so put the blame were it belongs the Iraq people who were not brave enough or powerful enough to fix the problem themselves so ...... let them throw the first stone at Saddam ........ not our problem don't agree with the death sentence being a Brit but don't unfortunately see another solution sad I know but what if ...........

Answer 10

he may have been tryed in an Iraqi court but under their law no its been influenced by Blair,bush the pair are murdering bxxxxxxx

Answer 11

to answer your question by asking you to answer this question :
Would Bush and Blair do nothing if the iraqi judge found Saddam not guilty and let him go free ?