My friend says if you check the history of the ACLU you will find it is historically based upon communism. Regardless of that why are they defending illegals and the rights of illegals in a city that wants to enforce immigration laws in their own city? They are not US citizens and they are violating immigration laws by being here.
2006-11-04
16:30:26
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We as US citizens cannot go to any other countries and be allowed to work without visas or reside in those countries without permission. Mexico kicked out the Rain Forest Indians who went there undersiege from their respective countries. We cannot go to Mexico and work without difficult visa work permits. So why are they fussing about us trying to enforce the same laws that Mexico enforces?
2006-11-04
16:32:05 ·
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Oh another lawsuit I wonder how much money they get claiming they represent me?
2006-11-08
08:42:24 ·
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I just cannot believe some of the things they do regardless and make it sound like they represent us they came here locally and in the name of our people without having done a petition by our local people sued our city for having up Christmas decorations such that the local people got together and did a petition to make them stop. This is a high Baptist region that is tolerant of all religions but we like seeing Santa Claus all lit up and waving (electronically) at us at the entrance of Niceville every year. We also have Rudolph with a lighting up nose. That was just rediculous for them to sue our city for something and not have one complaint by locals.
2006-11-08
08:42:52 ·
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That was all I heard in the news and a well educated woman told me that the ACLU is based upon communist principles. Which I think are grand ideas but do not work because the lazy get more than they should and the workers have their efforts taken from you then the leaders who do not follow the principles get more than their fair share of everything. I have been to communist territory while in the military and have had friends from Russia.
2006-11-08
08:43:38 ·
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ON the ACLU it is a private nonprofit organization not a government associate anyone can apply for nonprofit status if they pay all the fees and want to be watched a bit. I could start a nonprofit organization or business to protect the Apple Snail if I wanted..and get donations which I have not heard of yet.
The ACLU does not represent me at all and never asked for my membership nor do I want to join them as they do not represent my values in many cases they went after. They do not represent me and I resent them claiming they do by saying all Americans believe and think as they do by their selection of their name.
2006-11-08
08:44:39 ·
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Thanks for your input now I see it is the few amongst them who use it for themselves without concernfor their principles or their group. Explains how druggie car factory workers get away with doing drugs while working on the very cars we drive our cars around in that are made in the US...such that now the foreigners make better cars. I have a friend who knows what goes on in the factories she said some are really really out of their minds on drugs there at times. She had friends who worked there who were going to work really drugged up on illegal drugs etc. or knew others who were something like that. The ACLU for 'some reason' stopped alot of the drug testing at that factory. I will bet it had something to do with money or membership??? Or someone in the factory contacting them. My suggestion is for safety do not buy a US made car because of what the ACLU did for our freedoms and security.
2006-11-08
08:45:19 ·
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My opinion about freedom and rights is they extend to where they encroach upon other peoples rights. I think the ACLU and the government has gone to far in a very dangerous way.
To begin with
They kept the possible terrorists off shore because the US population at that time was too afraid to have them on US land and territory right after 9-11 it was as much to protect them as to protect us. Do you remember all the attacks upon the Mosques after 9-11? At least to start with this was the reason. Many of those released went right back to terrorist cells so I guess they have ended up keeping them longer than they wanted to FOR SOME REASON.
2006-11-08
08:51:11 ·
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No they are not.
There is a slight connection, in that one of the people (Baldwin) who founded an predecessor to the ACLU also was a member of the Communist party, well before WW-2. However, if you check, Baldwin also left the communist party when it started advocating violence. More importantly, of the dozens of people who helped form the ACLU nearly a century ago, only one had even that tenuous a connection.
Many people don't like the ACLU because the ACLU will defend anyone's rights, no matter how nasty the person is. But what those people don't understand is that rights only matter when they are needed. It's easy to say that you support civil rights if they are never being tested. It's when the test cases involve horrible people that convictions are really put to the test.
BTW, remember that ACLU will defend anyone's rights, even people like Rush Limbaugh who hate them. Their sole goal is to defend the Bill of Rights, particularly the 1st, 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments. Other groups focus on the 2nd and 8th Amendments, so the ACLU concentrates on the remainder.
As far as the Escondido (California) suit, read the details (link below). The law would require all landlords to provide information about citizenship to anyone who racially could be an immigrant, whether they are legal or illegal. Not only is this racial profiling and racial discrimination, but it also violates federal housing laws.
The ACLU isn't fighting for the rights of illegal immigrants. They are fighting so that 42% of the town -- including tens of thousands of legal immigrants and naturalized citizens -- are not forced to turn over private data to the government, data that federal law prohibits the town from collecting.
And they're not alone. It's not just the ACLU that's opposing this law. It's also Fair Housing Council of San Diego, and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund. They are trying to stop racial discrimination and force the town to obey federal law.
Why do people seem to have a problem with that?
2006-11-04 17:09:29
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answered by coragryph 7
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No they don't seem to be. There is a moderate connection, in that some of the folks (Baldwin) who headquartered an predecessor to the ACLU additionally used to be a member of the Communist social gathering, good earlier than WW-two. However, in the event you examine, Baldwin additionally left the communist social gathering while it began advocating violence. More importantly, of the handfuls of folks who helped type the ACLU practically a century in the past, just one had even that tenuous a connection. Many folks do not just like the ACLU seeing that the ACLU will protect any one's rights, regardless of how nasty the individual is. But what the ones folks do not realize is that rights best subject while they're wanted. It's convenient to mention that you simply help civil rights if they're under no circumstances being verified. It's while the scan instances contain terrible folks that convictions are relatively positioned to the scan. BTW, don't forget that ACLU will protect any one's rights, even folks like Rush Limbaugh who hate them. Their sole target is to protect the Bill of Rights, mainly the first, 4th, fifth and sixth Amendments. Other organizations consciousness at the second and eighth Amendments, so the ACLU concentrates at the the rest. As some distance because the Escondido (California) go well with, learn the main points (hyperlink underneath). The regulation could require all landlords to furnish know-how approximately citizenship to any one who racially might be an immigrant, whether or not they're authorized or unlawful. Not best is that this racial profiling and racial discrimination, however it additionally violates federal housing legislation. The ACLU is not combating for the rights of unlawful immigrants. They are combating in order that forty two% of the city -- adding tens of hundreds of thousands of authorized immigrants and naturalized residents -- don't seem to be compelled to show over individual information to the federal government, information that federal regulation prohibits the city from accumulating. And they are no longer by myself. It's no longer simply the ACLU that is opposing this regulation. It's additionally Fair Housing Council of San Diego, and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund. They are looking to give up racial discrimination and drive the city to obey federal regulation. Why do folks appear to have a predicament with that?
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answered by Anonymous
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No they take our rights extremely literally, while a lot of what they do is not exactly morally or ethically right they read it as what the country was founded for, complete freedom. So unless they change the constitution they are anything but communist, I'm not defending because I don't agree with them(or a lot of what happens in our fair country) just telling like it is. But hey that's what makes our country great, freedom, all this though is just the cost of freedom.
2006-11-04 16:37:46
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answered by davls416 2
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Because they think we are morons, and who could blame them? We have let Bush cheat on 2 elections , we let him hack our constitution up we let him terrorize the press until we no longer have freedom of the press, and soon believe me soon we will no longer be free to do this either. I am so disappointed in the American people that I figure they will just let Bush do anything he wants cause they are just too damn lazy to do anything about it. But boy will they be the ones crying when they have lost everything to the new world order.. The next right they are going to TRY to take from us is the right to bear arms. So as Americans what the hell is your answer when they want to disarm you?
2006-11-04 16:39:01
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answered by sosueme534 3
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it is true...
Roger Baldwin, the founder and main inspiration in the ACLU until his death in 1981, showed it’s partisan nature and agenda stating:
“I am for Socialsim, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. It all sums up into one single purpose-the abolition of dog-eat-dog under which we live.”
2006-11-04 16:38:07
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answered by turntable 6
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They defend anything and any body that is against set laws, trying to make it more liberal.
They appear to have a anti christian, open border, accept World view laws and bring in the laws of Eurpoe into the US
They want the right of any group ( that is not christian or moral) protected
2006-11-04 16:35:12
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answered by Anonymous
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yes they are and they are evil.... think about what they actually stand for and what they defend... be afraid..
2006-11-04 16:48:12
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answered by steinwald 4
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I vote with your friend .
2006-11-04 16:43:18
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answered by missmayzie 7
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yes they are communists, always have been.
2006-11-04 16:33:31
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i DON'T THINK SO.
2006-11-04 16:34:10
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answered by Anonymous
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