If the universe is expanding, doesn't that mean it hasn't existed forever?

Question

Therefore, it came about somehow. If it isn't possible for something mechanisitic to try things randomly in in different sequences, then how could the universe come about in that way? All things that have a beginning have a cause, therefore all things that have existed forever need no cause. Therefore isn't it possible that Agent X (God/ or whatever you want to call it) is a valid explanation of how the universe came about?

Answer 1

I agree that such an explanation is one possibility. In fact, my failure to fully comprehend the Big Bang in a purely scientific manner is the only reason why I am an agnostic, and not an athiest. I feel that I need to allow for the possibility.

Answer 2

No.


If God exists than God must have a beginning and requires a cause.


I think you have to take a closer look at themodynamics when considering this question.


Remember, energy cannot be created or destroyed. It exists without cause or creation. And therefore, all thermodynamic laws exist without cause or creation. Also, that means all quantum physical laws must also exist simply because energy has always existed.


It is not that hard to imagine from here that the universe could form without an initial cause if you think about the universe on a quantum scale, being acted upon randomly.


If you think about what is beyond us as sort of an infinite set of energetic points than our entire existance is an inevitable sum of random events o_O

Answer 3

Yes. At some point in the very distant past, it appears that the universe was created in an instant called the 'big bang'. This event and the following several million years left physical evidence which scientists are working to interpret to figure out the details of the creation of the universe. So far, there doesn't appear to be any observed phenomenon or physical evidence which cannot be explained as the product of a mechanistic (within the realms of quantum mechanics and cosmology) mechanism, except perhaps the 'big bang' itself, and quantum probability and uncertainty seem to indicate that event was just certain to happen at some point, that it may have happened more than once, creating multiple universes. If Agent X or God or Jehovah or Allah or Yahweh or Brahma or whoever created the universe by bringing about the 'big bang' this act of their spirit being seems not to have left physical evidence apart from that which is understandable as being the product of a physical process.

Answer 4

No. The problem is that time itself began with the big bang, so the concept of 'before the big bang' is problematic. It's like asking what was north of the north pole. But to require a cause requires there be an earlier time. So there was no cause to the big bang because there wasn't an earlier time than the big bang.

Answer 5

Well...
My mentality is, the Big Bang, the formation of Earth are events of the entire 'untraceable' history. Not the beginning of everything.

Perhaps its not up to us to decide what started Universe, but i think we shouldn't say God created it. We can't simply classify anything that came before we do as God's doing.

Answer 6

And where did that god come from? Everything has a beginning. We're not going to stoop to using the supernatural to explain things we don't understand yet - at that rate, we'll never learn anything new.

Answer 7

yes, it hasn't existed forever. look up the big bang theory. i personally think thats how it started.


maby there was some matter and some anti matter and the collided and created the universe

Answer 8

Sure there is a beginning and there will be an end
there is no infinity in a finite system (except our miscalculations)

Answer 9

You are supposing that time is enlessly linear. Which it is not. But, that still doesn't eliminate possibility of God's exhistence.

Answer 10

"god did it" is a stupid cop out explanation from idiots whose little brains can't possibly comprehend the way the laws of physics work.