Scientific limitations...(please read carefully)?

Question

This is one of the of the questions among many for my scientist friends. Please bare with me:
The big bang according to my understanding say that matter from ther universe were drawn together by gravity and then exploding into the universe we now know over a period of millions and millions of years....right??

I just wonder: Where did the matter from BEFORE THE BIG BANG come from. (some say "from a previous big bang") It just doesn't seem to answer the question because then where did those matter come from and so on.....
One of the rules of arguments in theology is that you CANNOT get something from NOTHING. How does matter in the universe (before the big bang) just magically appear??? I think we have another missing link..

And besides this theory doesn't explain the vastness of the universe and why it sooo big. How did all of that space for the big bang to take place emerge.

Conclusion: There MUST BE AN ALMIGHTY GOD.

What do YOU think???

Answer 1

Science can say nothing about the source of the Big Bang or what might have preceded it, as science only deals with what can be observed.

Concluding from this that there is a god is merely putting a name on the unknowable. This doesn't really get you anywhere, as you still have the problem of a total lack of observable evidence. Anything you say about your assumed god is no more supported than scientific surmises about the origins of the Big Bang. Even your assumption that said deity is almighty is mere surmise - for all we know the creator was sent to his room for having made this mess.

Conclusion: trying to validate religion scientifically is bad science and bad religion.

Answer 2

It was not matter but two particles that were highly explosive when they were attached together. There might just be a possibility that before the big bang another universe ended before that. Nobody really knows or will know. But this is predicted because at the end of the universe, the whole universe will contract but this is not true. The real ending as they discovered in 2000 is of that the universe will end by all the black holes sucking things up (including each other). Therefore the black holes will evaporate in the end and will be nothing but time. Soon time will die too and all that there will be left is nothing. After a few trillion years there will be another race of particles and soon may start new life.
But with all this greatness in power there has to be a god.
There is no way that the universe can start at a good accuracy without something powerful in mind.

As you were saying of what things where made of there at that time etc. There could be a possibility of 0.0001% of finding your question out even from professional scientists and getting the proper real answer to such a hard question.
But remember.
Nothing is impossible.

Answer 3

In retort to one of the answers, YES, it is in fact possible that we are a one in a billion billion billion... chance of life living on this planet, no matter HOW ridiculous the odds sound. You want the proof? Look at how many uncountable galaxies and solar systems there are in space. If you looked at how many can actually support life versus the total number, it would be lower than the lowest percentage humans can calculate. Why we humans are so adamant that we were created "by a higher being" is beyond me. Perhaps it is true; perhaps there is a supreme bean that created us. Rather, I would conclude that this "higher power" would have created the original two particles which caused the big bang (again, theoretically), sat back and watched it form and had NO FURTHER INPUT. THAT would be the true creation of life. What it all comes down to in the end is numbers, complex mathematical structures and geometry beyond our comprehension as human beings. We're not the only one in an almost infinite billion chance of life; I'm quite sure that there are other life-supporting planets out there, just VERY few and VERY far between. The fact that we are so ego maniacal and think that this planet was made ESPECIALLY FOR US just so we can ACTIVELY AND AGGRESSIVELY DESTROY IT is asinine.

Answer 4

First of all, they don't have the answers to what you ask.
Secondly, part of what they do know only poses new questions.
Thirdly, space may have always been. This is a concept that is hard for us mortals to comprehend because we grow up with constant limits to everything here on earth. When it comes to space, which apparently is endless, we just can't comprehend it.
The most rational explanation for the "big bang" theory, when you consider, as you say, starting with nothing, is that there must be a God.
Only a higher power could have created something from nothing.
But if it turns out that there always was material in space, then, the whole "big bang" theory would be sound and it could conceivably just be a rerun of something that happens again and again over milleniums.
With our existance only representing a millisecond in time when you consider the age of the universe, we know a whole lot more than we did a thousand years ago. We will hopefully know a lot more in the next thousand and those mysteries may actually be answered.

Answer 5

The reason there isnt a lot of work done on what was before the big bang is that we have no way of knowing. People can make up theories on what was there, like another universe that collapsed. But since we have no way of observing anything before it, theres little point in doing any research into it.

Its beyond our realm of understanding at this date.

Following your logic in your question ill pose you a few questions. Where did god come from? Did he create himself? from what? and when? What was there before him? And the most important question, do the answers of these questions matter to us?

My point is you can hurt your brain with these questions that cant be answered. If you like that take philosophy

Answer 6

Science is never complet and always a tentative group of evolving ideas. They're always searching for new things to learn. Two year old kid sucking on candy can point out to you things scientists don't understand yet. You can either say ok it's too hard, so I'll stop searching for scientific explanation or you can say may be we're really smart enough to explain the universe in terms of math and science and move on.

You have to understand difference between science and religion and their indepedence from each other in order to see the whole picture. And that science isn't really out to get God or religion. You try to mix and mash those 2 you end up saying something idiotic like that. You're right that science will never be complete as God and that is what precisely makes science SCIENCE.

Answer 7

My conclusion: You're a closed minded idiot. If you can't get something from nothing like you mentioned, how the hell can you then say there must be a god when that contradicts your own ridiculous argument? Where did god come from? Did he just magically appear too? I'm only using your words here.

I answered this in a question of my own a few days ago. I don't want to go through the details again. Do a little research of your own.

The bible should be banned because it makes people stupid.

Answer 8

I'm sorry, but your conclusion is flawed.

I'm not saying there isn't a God, mind you, only that the logic you use to reach your conclusion is incorrect.

To put it another way: Where did God come from? You yourself have argued that you can't get something from nothing. Using your own line of reasoning, how did God just magically appear? From another, older God that created Him? Wait, no...you disallowed that argument, too.

I'm afraid the actual answer to: "Where does everything come from?" is still an unknown. Whether it's science or religion, or both, we'll have to wait for our understanding of the universe to grow before we can perceive the truth more clearly.....

Answer 9

I agree with you. There are a lot of missing links that science, no matter how much time is given to it, will be able to answer.

Here are some of the questions I have, I would like to have an answer for:

How is it, that by an explosion as massive and powerful as the "big bang" theory has been described, could have placed the earth at just the right distance and in just the right tilt from the sun to support life? Science has shown, that if the earth were located in a tilt, or a distance in any direction other than its current location, life on earth would not be possible.

How could life, with all of its complexities and diversity, have been made through a randomly occurring set of chemical reactions over billions of years?

If evolution is true, and is an on going ever proceeding process, then why don't we find living creatures in their various stages of evolution,i.e. monkeys walking upright on two feet with the ability to make simple tools?

Why aren't there any creatures that have already evolved to the next level?

If evolution is not progressing now, then why would it suddenly stop after billions of years of evolving life forms?

I have the same conclusion as you, THERE IS AN ALMIGHTY GOD!!! You and I just have to recognize and understand that there are some people who are so blinded by their own superiority complex that they can not accept there is One much higher than they are.

Answer 10

Science have not have all the answers however, whatever information that science has been able to provide is far more believable than how religion has been able to answer.

Also there are an numerous of other solar systems as well as universes.

That is why scienctists use telescopes and radioscopes to understand the universe

Conclusion: Give enough time and science will provide the answers