I want to know what you think...give me your views...And if HONOR is an illusion...isn't everything else just the same? Why do people personify things? Is it indeed just human nature?
2006-11-03 20:08:18 · 11 answers · asked by third_syren_of_seduction 3 in Arts & Humanities ➔ Philosophy
It's a very vague idea, and it's not something that exists independently of human brains, but I wouldn't call it an illusion. It's real, and it's important. But we get to decide what it is. We create it, it's not something "out there" somewhere that we discover. I'm baffled by people's insistence on personifying ideas as well. I think it may be human nature to personify things. We assume that there are unseen agents at work when there aren't. When someone acts in a way that we decide is evil we assume that evil is some kind of force or being that is responsible. It's not a way of thinking I buy into.
2006-11-03 20:24:10 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
Honor is not an illusion; it's relative. To me, I have a definite criteria for an honorable act; but your criteria may be entirely different. Honor is a real thing, but it can only be sought or given personally.
It's the same as good and bad, right and wrong, evil and virtuous; they are all relative descriptors. They are all valid, but it is the placement of absolute values on these traits that make them false and illusion-like.
I hope that helps.
2006-11-03 20:13:27 · answer #2 · answered by hotstepper2100 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Just because people nowadays are DIShonorable doesn't make honor an illusion. There are still some of us left who believe in the concept of honor and act accordingly. We also do our best to set an example and pass on our beliefs in hopes of a better world in future generations.
2006-11-03 20:16:21 · answer #3 · answered by Lonnie P 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It isn't a Macy's Day balloon.
But that doesn't mean it's not 'there' in a sense.
I think Judith Butler's use of speech acts to give the conditions for the social construction of gender shows a way in which these ideas can be true or false.
Honor is a performance~The criteria for evaluating it are obviously harder to specify than corpuscular objects.
2006-11-03 20:24:16 · answer #4 · answered by -.- 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
when i lost my religion, it became necessary for me to redefine every word I previously held as a virtue or a value. there are still words coming up i haven't dealt with.
Step one: is it real?
can I or anyone else interact with it, manipulate it, quantify it, eliminate it?
with honor, I look to animals.
A dog with his tail between his legs and his head down is fearful and expects to be treated with less honor than the dog who holds his head up and tail high.
this behavior is related to the dogs perception of what it deserves.
a 'good' dog.
a 'bad' dog.
a strong dog.
a weak dog.
a dog who has known no fear.
step two: is it useful for me to keep this value as a human being?
honor is a good grade of common situations, interactions, a personal judgements.
a known beggar is on the street.
I see the beggar approaching.
he sits on a bench. he is comfortable. his clothes are new.
the beggar sees a couple eating outdoors and goes to beg.
he says "you got some money"
then he stands over the couple as they fish through their bags.
the beggar takes the money and walks over to me.
"hey sir, can you give me enough to get me something to eat?"
I waved the beggar in the direction he was walking and he does not slow.
i took no action in this situation because i judged no one could gain honor here. i am the only one that can make this decision for myself. you may have done differently. the couple did not know that the man is a regular, so regular that he has become a 'demander', not a 'beggar', and that his basic needs seem to be met judging by his grooming. I am not then helping him, but disabling, and the couple only has honor if they truly wanted to help a sufferer, not trying to get rid of a pest.
honor is a tool of discernment, since 'good' and 'bad' become vague from moment to moment
2006-11-03 21:23:15 · answer #5 · answered by willmin 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There used to be only three or four dictionary definitions for "Dignity" in dictionaries 200 years ago. Now there are thousands of definitions but we almost forgot what "dignity" is... If "shame" were purely an illusion why are some former Nazi officers still unable to sleep peacefully? Honour definitely exists, though you can't see it. Just as Love
2006-11-03 20:13:31 · answer #6 · answered by Korso 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes it's human nature and honour is an illusion and the symbols that are carried and thought of as holy are just mere illusions caused by brain washing.
2006-11-03 20:11:21 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
I think this question is very similar to "Is there truly a God?". The only way one would be able to prove it is if one acts upon it, as a result to incidences that may lead to an inevitable decision. whether one is to take honor into action or not.
2006-11-03 20:23:57 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, but Illusion is an honor! Go figure!
2006-11-03 20:10:19 · answer #9 · answered by Jimmy Pete 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
in this world every thing is illusion or known as MAAYA IN SANSKRIT. Nothing is permanent. every thing is washed away by time. Do you not see people asking question whether Jesus was real?
2006-11-03 23:37:23 · answer #10 · answered by Brahmanda 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋