did you know that King Arthur?

Question

Did you actually know that the legendary King Arthur was a Scotsman? In Scottish Mc or Mac before a name means the son of. Therefore McArthur means son of Arthur. The McArthurs are the oldest clan in Scotland. There is more probability that he is of Scots origin or Welsh than he is English.

Answer 1

Did you know John the baptist was Scottish?

Answer 2

Yes, it's probably true that Arthur was a Scotsman, however, the clans of Scotland existed long before Arthur became King.

May King Arthur come again! Long live the Frazier clan!

By the way, check out the books by the author Stephen R. Lawhead. He writes all about Arthur's Scottish and Welsh origens.

Answer 3

The most convincing candidate to me is Wales . I have read a book called The Holy Kingdom and it highlights how the early history of Britain has been suppressed and re written after the Norman Conquest . Many landmarks in Wales like Churches are wrongly dated and called Norman. There is clear Archaeological evidence for two King Arthur's in the area of Glamorgan.Also Pendragon is a title not a name it means the Headdragon. Welsh is one of the oldest Indo European language's and was once spoken over most of Britain. Wales was made up of three realms Cymru ,Alban and Lloegry which are Gwynedd,Powys and South Wales this was Ynys Prydein or Britannia. This was mistranslated from the Brut by Geoffrey of Monmouth as Wales Scotland and England and therefore misplacing King Arthur.

Answer 4

There is debate on whether he ever existed in the first place, but some have said their is some historical evidence.

"Another view holds that Arthur was real. Though some theories suggest he was a Roman Britain or pre-Roman character, by most theories, and in line with the traditional cycle of legends, he was a Romano-British leader fighting against the invading Anglo-Saxons sometime in the late 5th century to early 6th century. The late historian John Morris made the alleged reign of Arthur at the turn of the 5th century the organising principle of his history of sub-Roman Britain and Ireland under the rubric The Age of Arthur: A History of the British Isles from 350–650 (1973), even though he found little to say of an historic Arthur, save as an example of the idea of kingship, one among such contemporaries as Vortigern and Cunedda, Hengest and Coel. Recent archaeological studies show that during Arthur's alleged lifetime, the Anglo-Saxon expansions were halted until the next generation. If he existed, his power base would probably have been in the Celtic areas of Wales, Cornwall and the West Country, or the Brythonic 'Old North' which covered modern Northern England and Southern Scotland. However, controversy over the centre of his supposed power and the extent and kind of power he would have wielded continues to this day."

"If he existed, his power base would probably have been in the Celtic areas of Wales, Cornwall and the West Country, the Brythonic 'Old North' (covering modern northern England and southern Scotland) or possibly Brittany."

"Etymological links can be made tracing the name Arthur to Artorius; it is also true that no other recorded person in Britain, Ireland, or Scotland bears a name similar to Arthur until after Castus’ tour of duty in Britannia was over (however, Arthur is always Latinized into Arthurus, never Artorius, thus suggesting that it was a distinct name). Arthur’s pennant is said to be the Pendragon, a red dragon similar to the modern Welsh flag. In the earliest descriptions of Arthur, he is not a king, but is referred to as a dux bellorum or "commander of war"; as also mentioned above, Castus held the Roman rank of dux."

Answer 5

Arthur possibly did exist however not in the way the stories portray him. Arthur supposidly lived in the Dark Ages. This is the period of British history just after the Romans left. It is called the Dark Ages as not a lot is known about what exactly happened as not mamy people made records. What is known is during this period the Saxons used the chaos Britain was thrown into after the Romans left to invade. After many years of resistance by the British the Saxon invasion was stopped. British records from this time talk of the Battle of Baydon Hill which stopped the Saxons. The leader of the British at this battle is referred to as Arthur. There is every chance that Arthur is also several pepple who history had lumped together as one. The stories of Arthur such as Merlin, Guoinevea, etc are various mishmash of older Celtic legends that have been added to the story of Arthur over the 2000 years since some mysterious person stopped the Saxons at the battle of Baydon Hill

Answer 6

Yes King Arthur was a scottish folk and he was a great king believe me

Answer 7

No, interesting point. But it could be also that the oldest Scottish clan was started by Arthur.
Doesn't make a big difference though as the local tribes at the time are said to have been Celtic anyway.

Answer 8

The original inhabitants of England were called 'Welshman' so the Welsh are the original Englishmen. Once the Saxons pushed them to the hills, they became the Welshpeople we know today.

So King Arthur was still an Englishan at heart.

Answer 9

Yeah, the cart before the horse. Arthur was most likely an Anglo-Saxon guy living in England during the Roman occupation. Artorius, something like that. If somebody was named son-of-Arthur, that would mean they came *after* him, so...it doesn't prove anything about him being Scots.

Nice try, but I doubt it.

Answer 10

I had a bit of an idea about the Mc's Mac's as my step father is a Scott. Did you also know that a name like Robinson or any other name ending with son also means the same as in Robinson= son of Robin. Back to the Scott's Not all Scott's surnames started with Mc or Mac like my father Who is Livingstone, so where does that name really come from. Anybody know?

Answer 11

...and did YOU know that King Arthur is reputedly a 'legendary' king only - rather than an ACTUAL king?

(God I miss underlining and italics and font colour!)

But I can believe that he was Scottish - aren't ALL scotsmen legndary?

Scots wahay!

(I'm English by the way...not MY fault I was born south of the border!)