If you found a watch in a remote place, and u took the back off.......?

Question

If you found a watch in a remote place, and u took the back off and you saw the complex mechanism, you would belive that the watch has been created, then why can we not understand that this world which is much more complex than a watch was created?

Answer 1

Complexity is generated in many natural ways, from turbulence to evolutionary scenarios. Complexity alone is not enough to conclude a creater. One difference between a planned construct (like a watch) and an unplanned one is that unplanned complexity tends to be either chaotic (in the strict sense, for example turbulence) or has extraneous mechanisms that are no longer useful or needed for functioning (from evolutionary scenrios). I think you will find the complexities of the universe to be one or the other.

Answer 2

The world is less complex than a watch, a watch has parts that are created and built to fit together. The watch is a structured and closed environment, nothing inside it grows expands or takes away parts or invents new ones. When the watch was finished it was closed, nothing more could be added, nothing inside could change or it wouldn't work the way it was made.
The world however, has evolved with billions upon billions of pieces (animal and plant species), the ones that don't work die fall out of the "watch" the ones that do work stick around and continue to be part of a functioning "watch" until they don't, then they fall out and some other piece (species) fills the gap until it doesn't work. That is until modern man came around and started to think it new how to build a better watch from the inside and started growing beyond the watch case and destroying pieces it didn't like or thought unnecessary.

Answer 3

The world is not a watch. In some ways it is indeed more complicated, but in most ways it's actually a lot simpler. We fully understand the chemical, geological, and biological processes that have given rise to our planet and the life on it -- and they show no sign whatsoever of needing a creator or a designer, they operate by simple processes that when taken as a whole easily account for the world around you and you yourself.

The "watchmaker" idea was put forward over 150 years ago, and was easily refuted even then when we didn't know 1/1000th as much about our world as we do now. You should really think of a newer and better argument if you want to keep pressing the "creator" issue.

Answer 4

I don't know if you saw that movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?", but there is a scene dealing with this sort of thing. They list an a fairly unknown occurance during Columbus' second voyage. There was a incident in one of the Carribean islands where the people were seeing ripples and waves in the middle of the ocean, fairly close to shore, but they knew they were not regular waves. They called in the town healer (because according to them, he knew everything). He also observed these waves and was astonished to say the least. So he studied them and kept looking at the mysterious waves. Whilst watching them one day, three sailing ships appeared out of no where. The argument here is that since the healer never knew what a sailing ship was, his mind was unable to comprehend what he was seeing, so it decided to ignore them. As his mind got accustomed to it, he began to see them. He told the villagers and soon enough, they too saw the ships. Our minds cannot see things those which we do not comprehend. If we saw this watch and did not understand it, our mind would think that it just appeared out of nowhere when in reality, it was created by man or some other being.

Answer 5

Because the world is not a watch. We know of many natural mechanisms that can create the world.

Tell you what. Find us something that was NOT created by some god, and we'll compare it to the world. Get back to me when you find something complex that you won't just automatically assume is created. Or maybe just go study some physics and stop using old arguments that have been professionally refuted over and over.

Answer 6

That's the problem with Intelligent Design and people like you who believe it. You think just because we can create things intelligently we must have been created intelligently as well. That is an extremely stupid way of reasoning. Think about it, a watch was created by a human in probably a few hours, and every part was created by a defferent person, then someone else assembled it. So if you really believe in ID, you must believe that there are millions and millions of "gods" out there.
You can't possibly compare that with the way the universe has evolved. The evolution of the universe and everything in it, including us, is an extremely slow process that has taken millions of years. I don't understand how you can possibly believe the stuff in the bible about how god created the Earth in six days....and he just created Adam out of nowhere and Eve from his ribs....that's the type of fairytale you tell children.

Answer 7

I believe watches are created by "creators" because we all know there are watch makers who make watches. There are people who've been making them for years and you can "watch" a watchmaker build one firsthand.

We cannot understand that the world was created in a similar way because we have no evidence that it was. There is much evidence, however, that it came to be by known scientific principles.

Why do you assume the existence of a watch means the existence of an all powerful creator?

Answer 8

It is unbelievably arrogant of you to think either that this is an argument which ought to be convincing to other people, or that you ought to get some extra credit because you have found it convincing.

David Hume dealt with this argument logically, thoroughly and completely about the year 1790. It could only be convincing to people who think in the illogical way which was widespread 200 years ago and more.

You can be certain that God exists, and that He is deeply involved with this world and everything in it, but not because of foolish arguments like this one.

Answer 9

We recognize the watch as man-made. The universe, on the other hand, appears to carry on without supernatural intervention. We have been able to see many of the mechanisms by which the universe develops, and none of them require the Hand of God to give it a push.

In any case, if you assume nature is the work of a supernatural intelligence, you are forced to conclude that He/She/It/They is/are not particularly omnipotent, having made numerous mistakes, false starts, and compromise solutions.

Answer 10

Surely you'd just be amazed that someone else had been out here before you and that the unfortuate sod had lost his watch.

You should check around for human remains. Someone might have dug a shallow grave to dispose of a body. A remote spot seems to be a better choice that the local town centre (in some towns).