American Imperialism? versus Islamic Imperialism? which is the greater threat to the host country.?

Question

US has many non-permanent bases throughout the world, leased from the host country by invitation ( excluding Iraq ). Muslims have migrated from the east to every western style democracy in the world, although there might be some muslim immigrants in China, Cuba and North Korea? The Islamic immigrants have permanent, unrestricted, occupation in host countries, the US temporary and limited, occupied bases. Each promotes its own philosophy and excludes integration. So which is the greater silent threat to the host nation?

Answer 1

One needs only to look at europe for the answer to that question..
Today, a fearless Muslim advance has penetrated far deeper into Europe than Abd al-Rahman. They're in Brussels, where Belgian police officers are advised not to be seen drinking coffee in public during Ramadan, and in Malmo, where Swedish ambulance drivers will not go without police escort. It's way too late to rerun the Battle of Poitiers. In the no-go suburbs, even before the french current riots, 9,000 police cars had been stoned by ''French youths'' since the beginning of the year; some three dozen cars are set alight even on a quiet night. ''There's a civil war under way in Clichy-sous-Bois at the moment,'' said Michel Thooris of the gendarmes' trade union Action Police CFTC. ''We can no longer withstand this situation on our own. My colleagues neither have the equipment nor the practical or theoretical training for street fighting.''

What to do? In Paris, while ''youths'' fired on the gendarmerie, burned down a gym and disrupted commuter trains, the French Cabinet split in two, as the ''minister for social cohesion'' (a Cabinet position I hope America never requires) and other colleagues distance themselves from the interior minister, the tough-talking Nicolas Sarkozy who dismissed the rioters as ''scum.'' President Chirac seems to have come down on the side of those who feel the scum's grievances need to be addressed. He called for ''a spirit of dialogue and respect.'' As is the way with the political class, they seem to see the riots as an excellent opportunity to scuttle Sarkozy's presidential ambitions rather than as a call to save the Republic.

A few years back I was criticized for a throwaway observation to the effect that ''I find it easier to be optimistic about the futures of Iraq and Pakistan than, say, Holland or Denmark." But this is why. In defiance of traditional immigration patterns, these young men are less assimilated than their grandparents. French cynics like the prime minister, Dominique de Villepin, have spent the last two years scoffing at the Bush Doctrine: Why, everyone knows Islam and democracy are incompatible. If so, that's less a problem for Iraq or Afghanistan than for France and Belgium.

If Chirac isn't exactly Charles Martel, the rioters aren't doing a bad impression of the Muslim armies of 13 centuries ago: They're seizing their opportunities, testing their foe, probing his weak spots. If burning the 'burbs gets you more ''respect'' from Chirac, they'll burn 'em again, and again. In the current issue of City Journal, Theodore Dalrymple concludes a piece on British suicide bombers with this grim summation of the new Europe: ''The sweet dream of universal cultural compatibility has been replaced by the nightmare of permanent conflict.'' Which sounds an awful lot like a new Dark Ages.

The echoes can be heard in many neighborhoods of north and east London, where Sajid Sharif, 37, a trained civil engineer who goes by the name Abu Uzair, once handed out incendiary leaflets preaching his brand of extreme Islam. From the comfort of his home, he leads the Savior Sect, a group that claims several hundred supporters and seeks to unite all Muslims worldwide under a strict conception of Islamic law. That might seem fanciful--except that Uzair's mentor, Omar Bakri Muhammad, was one of the first clerics to lose his right to live in Britain under the new antiterrorism laws. He was barred from returning after a holiday abroad. Uzair says he isn't concerned about the threat of eviction because he is British born, and his lawyer has reportedly told him he has little to worry about. "Anyway," says Uzair, "it is all in the hands of Allah."

Uzair is bearded, wears a long white gown and quotes nonstop from the Koran and Hadith (a collection of the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad). His Pakistani parents are secular Muslims, he says, and speak very little English. In his youth he smoked and went to night clubs. It was not until he was a university student in Britain that he embraced Islam. "I wanted some inner discipline," he says. "Since I have come to Islam, I have a lot of tranquillity." Now he tries to steer people away from drugs, drink, crime and smoking. Uzair's supporters refuse to vote in elections because his sect recognizes only Shari'a, Islamic law. While he does not openly support terrorism, he declares that the July 7 attacks were retaliation for Britain's support of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. "The majority of Muslims in the U.K. are frustrated, but they cannot speak," he says. "They will not condone the London bombings, but inside they believe that Britain had it coming."

Answer 2

Islamofaschism / Islamis Imperialism / Muslim Religious fanaticism
is the greatest threat to world peace today..
Islamic immigrants are bringing unrest, riots & trouble to many western nations..
9/11 signaled the beginning of WW3 between the civilized western nations and Islamofaschist nations...

Answer 3

definetly Islam. They slowly undermine the "infidel" society by exploiting the laws of hospitality and tolerance. However once they get a significant foothold, they begin demanding special priviledges and declare areas in which "infidels" are not tolerated. In the history of Islamic conquest, almost every time Islam succeded in conquering a new territory, it resulted in the anihilation of the pre-islamic culture, often with most of the population.
The US bases are separate from the mainstram of the host country and deliberately stay aloft and isolated.
Islam infiltrates through every pore- eg. in the US a serious effort is made to "convert" gang members and prisoners- and you can bet it is not with the intention to make them holy men and law abiding citizens.
I am sorry if this sounds extreme, but any real student of history (which excludes PC types) will tell you the same

Answer 4

You make a good point. While America is trying to bring democracy to Islamic countries, Muslims are trying to bring Sharia law to America. Just like in Europe, when there are enough of them in the host country, they will be able to change the political landscape at the ballot box rather than having to wage war. By the time the host nation realizes the looming catastrophy, it will be too late.

Answer 5

The threat level is relative to who you are and where you live.
How are U.S. bases non-permanent? There are U.S. bases in every place we have had conflict since the begginning of the last century. Seems pretty permanent to me.
Any kind of imperialism has a negative effect on those subjected to it. It doesn't matter who the agressors are.

Answer 6

False religion is the greatest threat to any nation. When the Catholics and Protestants were fighting in Ireland that was definitely a threat to that country.
when the Sunni and Shiite fight in Iraq that is a threat to that county and the fighting between religions in Africa is a threat to that country.

Answer 7

Drrrr
America promotes freedom!
Women are protected with America running things....
I choose American values!
Radical Islam promotes submission to their religion or off with the head!
Women are treated like property by radical Islam!
Now let me ask you....
Unless you hate women!
Which of these do you think would be better!

Answer 8

Christians haven't burn Muslims yet.