Most of the UKs ills emanate from dictats from the European Community.?

Question

Do you agree?
Convince me.

Thomas P - thanks for answering.
Over 80% of the UKs laws are not made in Westminster.
The EU budget has not been passed by accountants for the umpteenth year because of 'irregularities'.
Immigration to the UK is out of control because of EU laws.
Our fishing and agriculture industries hardly exist because of EU laws.

The 'charter' that the common people signed was to a Common Market only, not to a wholesale sell-out to a foreign, unelected political body.

Mesun 1480 (sorry if I've got that wrong), better to sell out to elected British fools than to unelected foreigners.

The Lone Gunman -(yes I can quite understand why)
Did we have this problem of out of control immigration before we signed up to the EU?
No, because we used to have Westminster to decide on our immigration policy.
Now we only have foreigners to tell us what to do.
Our Westminster government (whatever its colour, is just a puppet of Brussels.

Steve J - I really would love to see what you EU lovers see in such a corrupt organistion.
It is totally beyond my imagination.
Why do you want a United Soviet State of Europe when even Russia could not make it work?

Hooray for Bert!

The rest of you haven't convinced me yet.

Can anyone give me a good reason for wanting to be in the EU?

Steve J - Are we in Britain really as happy as those people in Switzerland?
I sugest we are really, really hacked off.

Karen S - thanks for so many details that the government would like to hide from us.
Now I'm really scared for Great Britain.

I believe Queen Elizabeth to be our greatest asset. You can trust her, if she really believes the vast majority of the people are against the EU bandwagon, I believe she would withhold her assent.

Answer 1

YES!
1. The Queen has signed 6 of the 7 EU Treaties.
2. The 6 treaties define and build the EU as an unelected dictatorship.
3. The EU's laws give it the powers of a police state.
4. The 7th EU treaty will complete the abolition of Britain as a nation
The Queen could sign it in as little as two years.
5. Thirty three years inside the EU - have you noticed how our democracy is being withdrawn?
The EU has already denied us that most basic of human rights - the right to vote against the EU and to keep our own nation. A majority of us don't want to be in the EU. We are being forced in against our will.
Do you feel you've become powerless, unable to influence events, or your vote is worth less? The six treaties are gradually removing our democracy; and 70% of the laws now passed by our Parliament are EU laws, not ours. Isn't the real reason people have lost interest in politics precisely because the EU has taken away our ability to change things?
Common law, where the government was our servant, is now largely replaced by the EU's Corpus Juris, which puts the government above the law, and we don't participate. We have already lost most of our rights (including habeas corpus). The power of government grows unchecked, as does that of large corporations. Politicians continuously lie about the EU, pretending its not significant.
6. Massive EU corruption
The EU's auditors have found the fraud is so widespread they've refused to sign off the EU's accounts for each of the last ten years. Whistleblowers like Marta Andreason, the EU Budget Director, who in 2005 found the EU couldn't account for 95% of its £66 billion budget, are simply fired for telling the truth.
7.The bribing of our Politicians by the EU
Europe works by bribing politicians with huge salaries and expenses to vote for Europe, against the best interests of their own voters.
As a result all three parties are in favour of the EU - Westminster acts like a one party state of politicians: the Lib-Lab-Con. The parties are run top down and implement the policy of their leaderships, not that of their members. (unfortunately UKIP is run in the same way). If you have voted for the Labs, Cons or Lib-Dems since 1969, you have voted for the EU dictatorship.
8. EU corruption is now exploding through our Civil Service, our local government, and our 7,000 quangos.
A shadow EU government lives inside our bureaucracy, headquartered in the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister (ODPM.) It includes many parts of government including the RDA and the Regional Assemblies. Common Purpose, an EU organisation, the UK branch also headquartered in the ODPM, has members across many government organisations including some city and county councils, the Land Registry, the police and the NHS, which it is destroying from within.
Common Purpose is the glue that enables fraud to be committed across these government departments, most of it lining the pockets of politicians and bureaucrats. It often involves the sale of public assets such as land to friends of politicians or their businesses. (The RDA -The EU Regional Development Agency, is a major player in this type of fraud.) And the handing out of plum government non jobs with big salaries and expenses to members of Common Purpose, all of it involving the theft of our money as taxpayers. The Chief Executive Officer of Common Purpose is Julia Middleton of the ODPM.
9. Businesses closing under EU regulation
The EU's 107,000 regulations will close hundreds of thousands more businesses when fully enforced, and control our private lives more closely than those of Soviet citizens. (In a Parliamentary answer to Lord Stoddart in January 2003, the government admitted there were 101,811 EU regulations)
10. The EU costs us £200 billion pa, 20% of our economy
According to the government's Better Regulation Task Force, complying with EU regulations now costs our economy over £100 billion a year. Economists say we lose £80 billion pa by associating with the EU's inferior economies. The EU took our fishing industry, which costs us £5 billion pa. EU damage to other industries (like forcing us to close the Rover Car Co) a further £20 billion. Our EU contribution is £10 billion.
Before we joined the EU we had an even balance of trade with them. Now EU regulations have fixed it so we lose £22 billion year trading with the EU on our balance of payments. We'd be enormously more wealthy if we left.
11. Our counties to be abolished
The Queen signed the 1992 Maastricht Treaty, which adopts the EU Regionalisation Plan. This will abolish England's 48 counties and replace them with 9 European regions, each with their own Regional Capital, which reports directly to Brussels, not to Westminster. This effectively obliterates the country of England. For example the County of Cornwall is replaced by the South West Region, which stretches from Lands End and includes Gloucestershire and Wiltshire; its regional capital is Exeter. As this move is unpopular it is being kept low-key and will not be implemented until the seventh treaty is signed, when we lose our right to object.
12. The deliberate destruction of our way of life, standards and morals
From Sunday trading, where large stores force staff to work Sundays for derisory pay - or they don't get a job, to the government's deliberate undermining of the family, to sex education for the under 13's, to children being given obscene homework, its all traceable via our compliant government back to the EU over the last 34 years. While inside atheist Europe, British Christianity has almost died out; safety on our streets and a great chunk of civilised life has left with it.
13. The EU has controlled our immigration since 1997
The Amsterdam Treaty handed complete control of our immigration to the EU. The EU increased the numbers of immigrants from 30,000 a year to 200,000 a year. That's why house prices have been screaming up. Politicians and huge corporations like immigration - with thousands of immigrants available on low pay, corporations can impose the minimum wage on millions. Politicians then lie that they can't get British workers to do dirty jobs. The truth is they won't offer a decent wage to compensate for unpleasant work, and instead use immigrants at £5 an hour.
Michael Howard was lying on the 24th January 2005 when he said he'd fix immigration - as Prime Minister, he'd have had no control over it whatsoever. Immigration hurts our existing immigrants first - new immigrants move into their areas, decreasing the wages and increasing the pressure on housing.

****** If the seventh Treaty is signed, we lose our right to withdraw and Britain ceases to be a nation. Like the other six, it only requires two signatures: the Prime Ministers, and the Queen's. *****

Answer 2

Convince you? I suspect you already have a closed mind on the issue.

OK, the EU has its faults and in parts it is corrupt (as are all governments to an extent). But read this....

"I wish to speak to you today about the tragedy of Europe. (...) Yet all the while there is a remedy which, if it were generally and spontaneously adopted by the great majority of people in many lands, would as if by a miracle transform the whole scene, and would in a few years make all Europe, or the greater part of it, as free and as happy as Switzerland is today. What is this sovereign remedy? It is to recreate the European Family, or as much of it as we can, and to provide it with a structure under which it can dwell in peace, in safety and in freedom. We must build a kind of United States of Europe. (...) The first step in the recreation of the European Family must be a partnership between France and Germany."

Winston Churchill
Speech at Zurich University
19th September 1946

(The people of this country might whinge about things, but they are a hell of a lot better off generally than the average person was through the first half of the 20th Century.)

Answer 3

Icertainly do agree with you,the E.C. Is a huge top heavy,corrupt home for failed politicians from all countries of Eurpope.Just one question,why has no one been allowed to examine the account books for years?,The sooner the U.K. pulls out of this organisation the better,we pay a lot more into it than many other countries,therefore we would be far better off financially than if we kept pouring money endlessly into this bottomless pit just to suppert corruption and line the pockets of venal "eurocrats"

Answer 4

Yes! We were sold a crock of sh*t when we "joined the common market". Since then political power has been bled from Parliament to Brussels,at an astonishing cost, both in terms of finance and culture. We make few of our own laws, have lost control of our borders, and are subordinate to the European Court, and for what??

Answer 5

Don't think so.
Just blunders and slip-ups with human errors being expose with time in planet of apes.
Little horror chucky had been kicking the butts of parents, teachers with the dirty old men in office in planet of apes.
But the dirty old men in office were at loss could not read little horror chucky communication system by that time little hooror chucky kick too hard that they fell off the bed with restless nights and nightmares in planet of apes.

Answer 6

Rubbish. get a life! the UK's problems originate in the UK.
If the UK's problems originated from decisions that were made by Europe, then don't you think that the rest of Europe would also have problems?
If you want to know where the UK's problems emanate from, then I would urge you to look behind a certain black front door in a house in London

Answer 7

I Do like the sound of you mate, WE...! are not alone...we're just to polite to call the blinkered closed minded self-righteous hypocritical PRO-Europeans what they are (WHOOPS) I just did..

Keep up the good work.....to teach the young..on here.

And oh yes I do AGREE with you..

Answer 8

No I don't. Thank god for the Europe otherwise we'd be at the mercy of those idiots in Westminster.

Answer 9

Do i agree? No, of course not, please tell su what these 'ills' are.

Oh, and for your knowledge, there are no 'dictats' in the EU, we signed a charter saying we would comply with the laws passed. You dont like it, its tough