why do people think this way?

Question

has anyone else heard people say, "we can't leave Iraq, all the soldiers lives that were lost would be in vain." We can't be serious, what they are basically saying is, even though this war could be wrong lets stay the course and lose MORE lives just so the ones that have died already wont be in vain. Opinions please............

Answer 1

Good question, thumbs up. This Iraq thing is going very, very wrong! One can only do a little reading and watch TV, and realize why Saddam was such a dictator to these people. They played right into Bush's hand, rejoice when Saddam was over thrown, wave little American flags, throw around some flowers, and hold up the "peace sign", and when the military thought hey, this is great, they really appreciate what we have done, the planning for a guerrilla war, and planning by Al Queda was being conducted. Not enough troops to secure the ammo depots, bunkers, and God knows how many weapons caches, and as we put in a civilian administrator, form an Iraqi government, the guerrilla war and IEDs are emplaced. Over 3,000 of the nations best already fallen, 100 in the month of October, the Bush regime talks about changing strategy...how great; but the terrorist have already changed their tactics tenfold. IEDs more complicated, snipers using armor piercing rounds to penetrate body armor, and more and more Iraqi police and army recruits are killed. Saddam might of been a dictator, but he clearly knew the rules in his kingdom of "hell".

You are right Jake, and what the truth is....Iraq can not handle the security of their own country, our men and women are doing it for them, they know it, they love it, because our soldiers are dying while most of them could care less about basketball, democracy, McDonalds, or Saturday Night Live.

And what is so sad......we didn't have to deal with Iraq until we finished Afghanistan.

Answer 2

Unfortunately, I don't think our troops staying put will ever cause the evolution of a stable and safe democracy.

It is also unfortunate that someone, somewhere has started the despicable thought that the soldiers who have died will have died in vain if we leave Iraq. A ridiculous thought. Those soldiers were under the directive of their commander in chief doing what they were trained to do, the best way they could. No matter how the war ends, these men and women should be hailed as heroes in our country.

It seems to me that although some of the citizens of Iraq appreciate our presence, they are few and far between. I think most of them don't like us and in fact may hate us. They even actually appear to hate each other. Thousands of years of history is a difficult thing to fix. It's really hard to say what is actually going on there; I don't feel I get honest answers from our government nor an accurate picture from the media.

Answer 3

I am so glad you said that . It's been like the story , " The King has no Clothes " .
Finally someone has brought it forward , if anyone has mentioned it , their told their unpatriotic or worse , that your pandering to the terrorist .
Why keep compounding a bad situation . It's like spinning your wheels . What we are doing is not working and everyday that don't fix it there more and more of our troops being killed . If we had not gone there in the first place , think how many wouldn't have been killed .
Iraq was a fools war , fools planed it , sent our Military there , when they knew that the terrorist were in Afghanistan and have no exit strategy . How can you go to war without knowing how your going to fight it and with whom . Everything about this ( war ) was wrong , mishandled and not thought out adequately by the Administration .

Fitforlif :You are so right , I wish Bush and his Administration would see this Question and all the answers , to see first hand , what the American People really think of his war and what he is doing to our soldiers .

I wonder if he sleeps well at night !!!!

Answer 4

I totally agree with you....but my guess is that these people are feeding into Bush's administration propaganda..."WAR ON TERROR"...if they fully made it their business to understand and accept the true meaning behind this war...would they be as passionate?...why is the media coverage on this war not as detailed as it should be? Everyone's on the 9/11 attacks(which is the reason for this war, right) but we still have not capture the main person for this movement and we have changed the reason for war so many times, what are we really fighting for?.....But "Staying on course" will provide that we justify this war and we are right (and a third world country doesnt know any better) but if we withdraw our soldiers it will be admitting that we were wrong or had insufficient planning in engaging in war in the first place. Although, all of our efforts, time, and money are basically in vain (right now) & it would be logical to bring our troops home and start working on OUR NATION'S crisis...but as we all know US has a hard time to admit their wrongdoing....so let continue to let our soldiers die, create a bigger deficit, create more enemies (be the cause of more terrorist organizations forming) and neglect our future because we are always right and we are fighting terrorists!

Answer 5

Im one of them people that think we shouldn't leave because it would be in vain. you have to remeber that our military is a volunteer military. Any troop that is over there complaining is obviously in the wrong profession. Troops don't need Liberals backing them in the wrong ways. They need liberals supporting them not screaming bring them home.
Yes it would be in vain if we pulled out and left without the job being done. That would say to the many who have died. "we tried but we gave up oh well your life means nothing".
and look at the other picture how would you feel if you lived in Iraq and you couldn't use a cell phone and you couldn't surf the net and if you were a woman you couldn't show your face and dont even think you can wear a bathing suit at a beach and show your skin and hey if you dont believe in my religion im going to cut off your head. and education forget it you aint getting any. so tell me would you want to live in that place? and your a little old nobody over there so your voice dont count so dont hold your breath on getting anything changed and oh yeah did i tell you you cant leave. your stuck living the way "they want you to live" but then here comes America.......
....And we now have iraqis learning and we have woman in politics and we have everyone useing cell phones we have markets etc etc oh yeah theres more things that have changed since we got there.... so tell me again why we should pull out.
Lets not forget this is a 100% volunteer force stop looking at all the bad thats going on over there and start looking at the good.
Yeah it sucks troops are dieing but this is War. And if you want to hate someone dont hate the troops and dont hate the president hate the Insurgents. There the ones that are keeping this going. If they would stop killing us and stop trying to run Iraq we would be gone already. Support your troops in a positive way. Stop screaming pull out.

Answer 6

We are in a war against radical Sunni Islam. We had to attack a Sunni nation. If we didn't attack Iraq, we would of been limited to Afghanistan. Radical Sunnis don't think in terms of sovereign Islamic nations. They want the Arab world to be ruled by a Sunni caliphate. Therefore, the radical Sunnis can only be defeated if their destructive power on Islam is exposed. The war in Iraq is accomplishing this. The Sunnis and Shiites are slaughtering each other for no good reason. If they can't live side by side, what makes people think the Sunni Palestinians can live in peace with the Jews? If Persian Shiite Iran is allied with the Shiites in Iraq what makes people think that Iran can live side by side with the Sunnis in Iraq? What do you suggest we do in Iraq? Leave? How would that impact the civil war in Iraq and throughout the Islamic world? How would that heal the hatred between Sunni and Shiite? Who would replace Saddam in Iraq? What would Iraq look like? Would there be two Saddams? One Sunni and one Shiite?

Answer 7

I dont think we should have gone to Iraq at all.But we are there now and I think we have a moral obligation not to leave.
When the states left Vietnam ,a vacuum was created that enabled the Khmer rouge to take over Cambodia.Over 2 million died because of that.Some say to me that we cant be responsible for what others do after the fact ,but if America had never gone to Vietnam,historians agree that the Khmer rouge would have always remained a fringe element with no real power.
re:Iraq It is a civil war there now.Sunni and Shiites are duking it out .If the US withdraws at this point it will become worse than Saddams rule.
The commitment has been made so some stability must be
brought to the country.Thsi will take the lives of US troops

Answer 8

Those may be the words they use, but you know that is not the meaning that they are giving. They feel that the war is winnable and that if we can toughen up and accept some losses those losses will not have been for nothing. They strongly believe that the out come of the war in Iraq will be one of a peaceful, stable democracy. I don't agree with this sentiment, but I also don't agree with a flat out withdrawal of all troops at this time. Peace will probably never occur in the area. It has never known much peace, only times of tyranny that kept the insurrection to a minimum. Don't denigrate the sincerity of those who think differently than you do. Express what you believe and offer them the opportunity to change their minds. You might try listening with understanding to what they are saying also.

Answer 9

i don't think we should stay just because of the lives that have already been lost, but a friend of mine just returned from Iraq and he says we do need to stay. A lot of good is being done by our troops over there and if we leave too soon, the progress that has been made so far will be in vain, according to him. It's sad that the media does not report all the good things that our troops are doing to help these people become independent. God bless American and our Troops.

Answer 10

Those lives have, sadly, been lost in vain already.

Well, in vain, for the good of the American people anyway.

George Bush and all of his cronies sure have profitted!

Why cast more American lives into the Hell-Hole Iraqi civil war that the Conservatives have created?

The families of the slain should really be P.O.ed at George Walker Bush and all of his war-profitteering buddies.