N.U.S ......a Union? Never.?

Question

I am a member of a trade union. I find the name National UNION of Students inapropriate and not accurate as students do not do a job(in the real sense)and they do not have an employer. I am interested in hearing the opinions of real trade union members and excuses from N.U.S members. Sorry for an gramatical errors or poor spelling but I am a lowly WORKER.

Hi nert61, I appreciate the meaning of the word, I object to students (some how) aligning themselves with Trade Unions by using the term.

Hi Rosaire, but they are Children/Youths being taught!!

Hi Roxy, Last Paragraph = arguably.

Musiu_200 Go up the list of answers and you'll see the your points have been covered allready, read my question in the sentiment I have writen it.PLONKER.

Hi Tommytenpin, What a coincidence, I wear an A.S.L.E.F badge myself.
Previously a member of our two sister unions to.

Answer 1

I think perhaps that these students are trying to emulate trade unionism's long history of standing together on issues.

I was part of the student movements of the late 90s/early 90s; one that saw a lot of participation but never got the attention of the 60s (or rather "the 60s"). I saw a lot of good work and good intentions, but too much turnover and too much young, idealistic resistance to finding a unified voice to ever be a long-lasting force.

I doubt any student movement of tady would have such momentum; the NUS will likely be long forgotten in a few years. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

Answer 2

At least if they're in the Student's Union they are interested in the world around them in general, and their place in it specifically. They are showing a political awareness that many young people are not interested in having.

By the way, although I support the Trade Union ethic, I've never been a member of one (not even the NUS) - does this make my opinion any less valid?

Answer 3

The National Union of Students? Are they a member of the TUC? If not, they are not purporting to be a Trades Union, but more a working (wo)men's club. But they don't work, I know, but we then get into what is work? Is a volunteer in a charity shop a worker? What about asomeone who cares for their parents full time. Or full time mother? Come to think of it, who cares if the Students' Union is or is not a Trades Union? There are far more important things in life... And for the recordI am a fully paid up member of two Trades Unions, and neither calls themselves a Trades Union in their titles (RMT and TSSA).

Answer 4

1. You plonker! You don't even realise that there is a difference between trade union and union. Not every union is a trade union.

2. In the UK there are many different kinds of union. They include: credit union, choral union, church union, temperance union and so on. A trade union is just one type of union! So is a students' union!!

3. If you were to go to the Charity Commission website (http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/registeredcharities/search.asp?position=1&oparea=S ) and do a search of its database using the word "union", then you would realise just how big and embarrassing is the mistake that you have made.

4. Here is a list of some well-known past and present (non-trade, non-students' ) unions in this country:
Women's Social & Political Union http://www.thepankhurstcentre.org.uk/wspu.asp
Baptist Union of Great Britain http://www.baptist.org.uk/
Mothers' Union http://www.themothersunion.org/
Union of Catholic Mothers http://www.theucm.org.uk/
British Union Conference of Seventh-day Adventists http://www.adventist.org.uk/
English-Speaking Union http://www.esu.org/
Casualties Union http://www.casualtiesunion.org.uk/
Scripture Union http://www.scriptureunion.org.uk/
Spiritualists' National Union http://www.snu.org.uk/index2.htm
British Ornithologists' Union http://www.bou.org.uk/
Catholic Missionary Union of England & Wales http://www.cmu.org.uk/
British Union of Fascists http://www.oswaldmosley.com/buf/buf.html
Are you going to complain about all these too? Well okay, I'll let you complain about the last one!

5. Then there are the international bodies, past and present:
European Union http://europa.eu/
African Union http://www.africa-union.org/
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics http://www.soviet-empire.com/

6. What will be next for you? Maybe you could deny union membership to apprentices, because they don't know their work yet - they are just learning. Then you could oust NATFHE from the TUC, because its members encourage students. Finally you could ban all researchers from joining a trade union, because they also "do not do a job (in the real sense)".

7. Comrade, I hope this is the only strange idea that you have.

Answer 5

un·ion Pronunciation (ynyn)
n.
1.
a. The act of uniting or the state of being united.
b. A combination so formed, especially an alliance or confederation of people, parties, or political entities for mutual interest or benefit.

9. often Union
a. An organization at a college or university that provides facilities for recreation; a student union.
b. A building housing such facilities.

You're part of a *labour* union.

Answer 6

I think students gather forces to defend their rights and fight any mistreatment as any workers' union does. It is not a word game, just consider the aim.

Answer 7

It's all about solidarity, support and standing up for our rights, just as you would do. And we are working actually, learning our craft so that we can (hopefully) get a better job than you one day.