uk identity cards,?

Question

The ongoing controversy with regard to ID cards: Isn't true to say we already have a form of ID card . namely our national insurance numbers. which, for those who can remember! used to be their Identity card number during world war 2. Add a photo to it, plus hologram, and you have a viable ID card, More cost effective than what the goverment propose don't you think?

Answer 1

ID Cards are inevitable throughout the western world. With the rise of religious, ethnic & economic based wars. Watch countries checking their borders and population. Sophisticated ID's are not going to help, you can't control long borders and millions of people marching across your borders. The solution?
No borders

Answer 2

Well Peter R, they`ve got You brainwashed then.
Put your brain in gear and think about all the implications.........
silly me, you can`t can you. Now to answer the question, as I have said before, the authorities already know who we are, I was issued an ID card at birth, and that was during the war when it was important, I was later issued with a NI number. It certainly makes one wonder why the govt. want another set of ID cards
Probably thought up by some prat who went to a university and doesn`t live on this planet, correct me if I`m wrong.

Answer 3

The introduction of the ID will be the single biggest infringement of our freedom ever introduced. The government would have us believe it is to help combat terrorism and criminal activity. The apathetic in our society will blindly promote the premise that it can't do any harm if you've nothing to hide. This is a fundamental flaw.

If an ID card is to be effective against terrorists and criminals it will have to be an immediately arrestable offence to be caught not carrying it. For those of you that didn't realise this, think of the scenario where the police stop a suspected terrorist and he is unable to produce his ID card. Are they going to issue him with a ticket to produce his ID card within 5 days at his nearest police station? Do you think he'll turn up if they do? No! So the arrest must be immediate if the card is going to do anything to prevent criminal activity. Now consider the scenario that you are working in your garden one hot sunny afternoon and decided to take a walk to the local pub or shop for a cold drink. You don't take your wallet because you have some loose change. In the pub or at the shop there is an incident that is nothing to do with you and the police are called. They want everyone on the scene to produce their ID card. What are they going to do? Let you walk home to fetch it? You could be a major criminal and won't return. Are they going to pop you and all the other individuals who aren't carrying their cards home to fetch them? Don't be silly. They need a week already to turn up to a minor incident as it is! No. They will drive everyone to the nearest police station until their identity can be proven. They will then probably have the right to fine you for wasting their time and in the meantime you may have been disciplined for being late for work or your children have come home from school and found the house empty because their parent is locked in a cell! If this ever becomes law, I shall be on the first boat out of here. We already have passports which are supposed to stop illegal immigration and they fail. Why should another ID document which will cost each of us around £100 be any more successful when the only problem we have is the bungling bureaucrats who cannot administer the adequate safeguards we already have.

Do not think that your identity issues will stop here. We already have the technology to tag everyone at birth like we do pedigree puppies. So when we start to complain that carrying a card is too onerous, how long before the powers that be suggest tagging as a more "convenient" alternative. If these tags can be implanted into us at birth, this would be an ideal time to include on the chip other biometric and genetic data such as our dna makeup and any genetic defects we could have inherited that could make us more likely to suffer illnesses later in life. They would argue that this information could help diagnosis and treatment of your problem later in life, but do you think insurance companies, if allowed to access this data will insure someone who is highly likely to suffer heart disease? If they won't insure this extra risk, how will that individual be equal within our society? How will he get a mortgage without insurance? Will he be able to afford the increased premium to be allowed to drive? Will he be able to get a higher paid job having been risk assessed in this way? Do you really want to belong to a society where some citizens are immediately demoted into a human underclass simply because of their genetic finger print? And if you think all this is far fetched, ask yourself how identity theft is the fastest growing crime today. It is because data is not secure and I cannot believe that this data will be any more secure in the future as criminals get more sophisticated.

Answer 4

We do indeed have a form of ID in our NI numbers, however, since these are also given to non UK nationals they are not seen as UK identity.

ID cards will not reduce crime or the threat of terrorism or anything else which we feel is wrong with society. All EU countries have some form of ID. The British only ever had ID cards during WW2 when most of us forgot to carry them around anyway.

ID cards will not reduce immigration either. In fact ID cards will not improve the lot of the British people one bit. So,why have them?

Answer 5

yep then it will be the bio metric finger scanners everywhere which are for conditioning people for a one world money system which will be all numbers no cash involved theyve even brought these things in schools in some cafeterias to pre condition children this is normal when in fact in the near future you wont be able to do anything without puting your finger on one of these things which basicilly makes a profile of you everytime you go out your face will be scanned a million times by cc tv cameras so basicilly where ever you go you are documented dont except these ID cards its just the start ,dont ever put your finger on those bloody biometric finger scanners,what people dont realise you never give away liberty for security we have one of these staged attacks and they bring these laws threw like in the states the patriots act which is unconstitutional and people say oh maybe we need to give away some of our libertys to be safe when in reality its a self inficted wound to get the people to slowly give all there rights and freedoms away, history is repeating itself and if humanity doesnt wake up its game over .look up the new world order ,police state martial law ,bohemian grove or even george orwell you can also look these up on google video it doesnt cost anything to become informed this affects us all.before they bring those key boards made by microsoft in which everytime you want to go on the internet you put your finger on the scanner this was on the news they have this technology.

Answer 6

Your suggestion is the most financially sound and secure means of introducing ID cards, BUT - when has this government ever chosen the most financially sound and secure method of introducing anything?

They want our money (More of it) that's all. They're not bothered too much about security, more about stealing from us.

ALL politicians are the same.

Answer 7

I am not having one,they cannot make me have one,simple.No westminster soot is going to make me do anything i do not want to do,only what i HAVE to do,(i.e,pay taxes&etc)again,simple.They have my drivers licence,national insurance number,television licence fee information,p60,p45 tax info,poll-tax info(held at council offices),housing association has my details,my childrens school has our details,(this is all inter-departmental info which could be shared by them if need be)and it was on the TV news not so long ago-people in this country are on CCTV AT LEAST 300 times a day.The govt has quite sufficient info on me without any more.And to the posts who say nothing to fear,nothing to hide?-i fear my already fragile freedom being taken away from me,its not the govts to have,its mine and mine alone,they are NOT having it,again-quite simple.

Answer 8

ooh come now, that's far too simple. Blair needs to feel powerful! he'll spend billions (of our money) on a new computer system (that will fail) to run the over complicated system. Highly paid Whitehall jobs located in an incredibly expensive new office building will administer it. you know the sort of thing. yet another waste of time. another Blair ego trip.

Answer 9

It's teh mark of the beast. I heard the gov't counts your Tv's and watches you with many, many cameras. Bush passes many big brother laws but doesn't enforce them. If someone came to my house to count TV's, they'd count the bullets that I'd put in their chest first.

Answer 10

The government wants more than that. They want to be able to track your movements