There are so many compelling facts that get distorted with random hearsay, eg no Jews in the Towers etc.
I have yet to meet an informed intelligent person, and certainly none on this "soma forum" that doesn't realise the obvious fact that the Twin Towers didn't fall without pre arranged demolition, there are lots of question marks about the other official stories eg "hello mum this is Mark Bingham, do you believe me ?- ( you'd better 'cos you won't find my body) etc. But which do you think is the most compelling.
I admit that I went along with the official line for ages, but slowly, and not without extreme reluctance on my part, it became so obvious that I would have betrayed my attempt at integrity by believing it.
Also I invite anyone to prove me otherwise. I have researched more about the official theories, (Purdue University, National Geographic, Popular Mechanics etc etc) than I have about alternative theories, wanting to believe them, but all I got was my intelligence insulted.
2006-10-28
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Check it out, I didn't call anyone a nitwit.
nicolasra, you misunderstood my use of the word "soma" it was a reference to Brave New World-Soma, "the drug with all the advantages of Christianity and alcohol, with none of the defects" nothing to do with cancer.
As far as my use of "nitwits" was concerned; I did not call anyone nitwits, I was looking for something that could persuade nitwits, and fully acknowledge that I am a nitwit myself.
David W. thanks for that, I think the official line is that there was a massive training exercise that day that meant normal response was not available-so they have that a bit covered, that pre planned covering though is a bit of a cause for speculation.
So Bill Clinton thinks that there should be an extra few million people seeking help for mental problems?- I can categorically say I never had sex with that man.-case closed.
I don't understand the NYC in the 70's ref, but thanks anyway.
I won't keep digging, but I wish I believed the official story.
2006-10-28
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I think that the fact that there were no fighter jets sent to intercept any of the planes is a difficult one to explain, if you believe the government conspiracy theory.
I know there were no fighter jets, because there were no planes, but those with their heads still in the sand definitely will not buy that one.
But you could ask.
'It's a known fact that NORAD, the North American Radar Air Defence system, maintains two squadrons of fighter jets on permenent stand by at Andrews Airbase.
Jets were scrambled 67 times between September 2000 and June 2001.
How can it be that no jets were scrambled from Andrews airbase on 11th September 2001, when they had 1 hour and 40 minutes notice between the first notification of hijack, and the crash into the Pentagon'.
No matter what anyone thinks, they can never believe that Arabs took control of the United States Airforce.
2006-10-28 12:09:53
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I have yet to see an informed intelligent person, and certainly none on this cancerous forum (oooohhh,, you know a big word, you must be really smart!!!!) who can provide any evidence of such a rediculous statement, other than, it was possible.
Bottom line: Shut up, you pompus ***.
Stop thinking you are more intelligent than others because you use a big word here and there.
Here is an idea. Study up on the science of demolition, and you will realize you have been a fool.
Or better yet... Since you are obviously so well read on the subject, prove aliens were not responsible for 9/11.
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david, below. have you heard the norad tapes of 9/11? I suggest you listen to them. It will answer your questions. The plane tracking devices were disabled from the airliners. Where would you scramble the jets to? They did not know most planes were hijacked, only missing, until the last minute.
Furthermore, the defense system is designed to scramble jets to intercept traffic coming into the US, not already inside. If you don't have a target, you can not scramble a jet to it.
Also, sperate Jets were eventually scrambled to the whitehouse, which intercepted each other do to lack of adequate communication.
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The answers are all there, if you want to find them.
2006-10-28 11:53:58
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answered by Anonymous
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General observation on conspiracy theories in general:
People who ascribe to them in many cases, seem to do so due to intellectual laziness. In other words, they have a pre-concieved vision of what they think is reality and then throw out these "facts" to make up a conspiracy theory that supports their word view.
Case in point: There exist many people that hate America or the "neo-cons" or Bush and are against the war on terrorism and/or Iraq. The view that this was all started by Bush and Co. to further what they think is their interests is a compelling view for them that fits in with the above. Thus, they latch onto a conspiracy theory that validates this.
The reason why this is (at the very least) intellectually lazy is that it requires no effort on their part to PROVE ANYTHING.
No matter what argument anyone to the right of center (or for that matter, anyone who thinks differenttly then they) brings forth, no matter how logical or reasaonable it is, can be dismissed by a "well, its a consipacy by Bush and Co.... look at the Towers.. it was a controled demolition, etc."
Well, guess what? That conspiracy theory has never been PROVEN. And until its proven, stop wasting everyone's time by babbling about it.
For that matter, not a single conspiracy theory has ever been proven for anything (e.g. the Kennedy assasination... YES, its never been proven). Since conspiracy theories have such a dismal track record I would think that would show that they are bunk.
2006-10-29 08:07:09
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The Illuminati have done a most impressive job of brainwashing the masses. Watch a video of the towers collapsing. It is blatantly obvious that it was a controlled demolition. There were only small fires burning in each tower. Then you can see the explosives detonating, and the tower begins it's collapse at the speed of gravity. It's ok people, just go back to sleep. We will soon be living in a New World Order fascist police state, with no guns to fight back.
2006-10-28 12:28:48
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answered by oceansoflight777 5
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I don't see nor have I heard of an inside job here except for alot of theories. Loose Change presents information , I saw it as we failed after the fact to respond. Equally more explosive is the dates and back tracks of the timeline that led to the events. It could mean that we were not told but officials were aware and preparing. Now that is not unusual. I am a mad scientist when it comes to this because it's fact but ? Also a ex flight attendant. I told my Father to get off United in 1998 when Clinton playing golf said oh I guess I heard of 9 specific threats to the Pacific Rim aircrafts but let me get back to my ball in play... I wish someone would pick up KGMB or someones tape of that . It's there. So is SWISS AIR111? an electrical fire where the owner lives as Mike Snow in Arkansas working on satellites now... it was his gaming devise that was blamed for that crash yet the pilots called out PAN PAN PAN no mayday folks hijack all before 911 but in Canadian water Yet as with these other dates we were under Bill Clinton's watch. Inside job, u leave a comic an easy line. I feel sick but after ten years of barking at the wind, no one listened. U see a United Airlines Captain Honolulu based cry in your face in 1998 that is a hiijack code and your family thinks u are crazy your birthday is SEPTEMBER 12th? I can tell you that the fmr FBI Director of my state said oh sh*t and I am not on his wacky list. I had not looked at it before, it's painful. My feelings are different I knew it was possible because of my job, just not where or when. I flew those planes full of fuel every day. As did the brave souls that perished along with the rest of our beloved family and friends. The after affects will possibly take more.
2016-05-22 03:56:57
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Molten steel was found under all three building including WTC7; which did not even get hit by a jet. If that in itself is not enough to convince most people that it was a demolition then a combination of some of the other evidence might be in order.
Most all the evidence that is available to us, show that the WTC buildings were rigged with explosives. Our own government had motive as was well as an opportunity to do this crime. Here is the evidence, presented for your scrutiny.
FAKE CONFESSION
The official government story is that the 9/11 attack was orchestrated by Al Qaeda, which is lead by Osama bin Laden. The proof our government provided was a video with Osama confessing to the crime. The problem with the video is that the person in the video does not look like Osama bin Laden: See picture.
http://911blimp.net/vid_fakeOsamaVideo.shtml
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6oAeK1dlHs&feature=PlayList&p=5C9C5F5FB50EF496&index=9
EVIDENCE
There are many other factors that do not fit the official story. They include, secondary explosions that were seen, heard, reported, and recorded by firefighters, in and around the WTC buildings.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=firefighter+bombs+in+the+building
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcRs1fv8i3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHz9YWVgJWM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtBGKSZNWB4&feature=PlayList&p=5C9C5F5FB50EF496&index=7
Here is a video clip showing a trail of explosions just before the destruction wave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_DkzhonpGY&mode=related&search=
Molten, beyond red hot, "steel" was video recorded coming out of the South Tower just before it collapsed. Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to turn steel to liquid.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk&search=thermite
A chemical analysis of the solidified molten iron,conducted by independent firms, yielded an explosive, called Thermite. Also found was a WTC core beam; most probably cut using the demolition cutting charge (Thermate). No core beams were left standing beyond a few feet high, for it to have been cut by an Iron Workers torch. Click on pic. to enlarge.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml
CONFESSION
We also have a video recording, where owner Larry Silverstein, admits to demolishing WTC7.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
TESTIMONY
There is also a problem with the Pentagon attack. Listen to this retired general, He says, "The Plane does not fit the hole."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2VoUN-7RVU&eurl=
MOTIVE
The New Conservatives (Neo-Cons), with the help of their friends, started planning the invasion of Iraq, shortly after Pres. Bush took office. Apparently, the plan would include the attack of the WTC buildings. It did this to get the support of congress and the nation, to attack Iraq. Read it from their own PENAC document. Pay special attention to the section entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force" page 50 and the top of page 51, where it states we need a new Pearl Harbor attack to get the ball rolling.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
OPPORTUNITY
Witnesses saw a work crew going into the WTC buildings with rolls of wire, supposedly for internet upgrades. Tenants were moved around while crews "upgraded" the cable systems. The Port Authority cut power to the building for a whole weekend, just prior to the attack; shutting down the entire security systems. Witnesses also heard crews operating heavy hammering equipment that left a gray cement like dust, in the building. This activity took place just weeks before the 911 attack: The Port Authority had released control of the buildings to Larry Silverstein, six weeks prior to the attack: He made upwards of $5 billion off of the attack.
See "9/11 Mysteries" video: Time = 1:03:55 through 1:07:00 and 1:19:55 through 1:24:09
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries&hl=en-CA
2006-10-29 01:32:44
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I think it was aliens from the planet zeldon. They are mad because we are using up all the cabbage in the world. If you were smart enough to understand the engineering of the towers you would believe the explanation. The architect that designed the building even admitted that he should have seen the vulnerability of the design.
2006-10-28 15:19:17
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Yes, 9/11 Was An INSIDE JOB!!
Bush Did It!
Bush is a devil worshipper, Member of Skull and Bones.
People are blind and decieved. They rather believe in TV then the science behind it.
We need an ovetthrow of this govt and the people in the military that was involved need to be b rought to justice~
Open your eyes!!
2006-10-28 12:02:39
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The only nitwits I have seen are the ones who buy into all these conspiracy theories.
Have some Kool-Aid, the mothership is on the way.
2006-10-28 12:13:45
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answered by Anonymous
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Bill Clinton said it all: "Anyone who believes that the government was involved in 9/11 has mental problems".
2006-10-28 11:53:35
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answered by Anonymous
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