Should we establish a timetable to get people off of welfare, or should we allow them to get it indefinitely?

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Oh - I forgot my link.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ao8VhIQwrkNaSe7BaK6KWerzy6IX?qid=20061027182326AANHTao

Gosh - I'm sorry. I mistated my question. I meant to ask if we should have a timetable to get the new Iraqi government off of our military welfare, or if we should agree to support them forever?

Silly me.

Answer 1

Yes, corporate welfare. Let's start at the top.

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/weekly_article/corporate_tax_evasion.html

Answer 2

I believe this was tried - numerous times. The one program I recall had so much corruption that it failed almost immediately. The program was set up to train people on welfare and help get them back into the work force. If I remember correctly, an audit revealed that approx. 15 cents of every dollar was actually being used to train the welfare recipients - the rest was allegedly "administrative" costs.

I do believe that tighter controls and severe penalties for fraud would be a good start - including tighter controls on just how the money is distributed or spent.

Answer 3

If you are talking about welfare, it is limited - to five years lifetime. However, the kids of the welfare recipients can receive aid. The problems are multi fold: you can't cut off aid to parents without hurting the children; you can't tell the parents to not have children, because that then turns into government edits and a police state; and you can't take the children away without turning into a police state and creating a huge foster child care population, which is ultimately much more expensive than the welfare payments to begin with.

Answer 4

what we should do is not punish people who are working toward independence.
I keep hearing stories of people who lose their help because of a small educational grant or some such thing - people who are months from getting off welfare, almost out of school, who have the rug pulled out from under them just as they're about to achieve independence.
I'd like to see welfare be supplemental...not entirely supporting anyone who is able to work, but helping close the gap between minumim wage and basic cost of living.
No one would be slacking that way, and more people could be helped for the same amount of money.

Answer 5

Some people such as the chronic homeless or disabled people the elderly should get welfare indefinately. Children should get welfare as long as they need it (who are the majority of welfare recipients). Single mothers with children need it and should be allowed to get it indefinately but I doubt if things improved for them they would want that since welfare has been a typically humiating and degrading process...

We should have a comprehensive welfare state as defined in the 1970s and was destroyed by greedy Reaganites who misinformed the public with lies in the same way they always do... they Rove-d the poor to increase money to the rich. Clinton's destruction of welfare (welfare reform) was the most devestating thing to poor people yet. It only gave sheap labor to dead end jobs run by corporations.
You can use all sorts of people for labor, retarded people if you like, but to me that is immoral and undesirable in a country with such massive wealth accumulation.

Answer 6

I'm pretty sure Clinton already signed a bill that did place a time table on most welfare?

anyone remember the 90s?

but comparing a war to welfare doesn't really work...

Answer 7

Why not! We do it for unemployment compensation. While we are at it, we should also set a deadline for people on disability who are sucking the social security system dry.
I know of a couple (husband and wife) who are both on disability from the US, and they're living in Italy.
The husband was an immigrant who came to the US and got a construction job. He put in a claim for injury on the job, and managed to get on disability. The wife, who worked in a bank, got carpal tunnel, she too went on disability. Once that happened, they moved to Italy, and I'm sure they're doing quite nicely on tax payers money.

It's time we got all these deadbeats off the roles. Who knows, if we're successful in doing that, we may be able to bail out the SS system.

Answer 8

Well somebody the other day I thought nailed it pretty good. He said something to the effect of, establish a time table, give options for education or re-training, and provide assistance to re-locate if neccessary for permanent work. Thinking about it several times I thought it was a reasonable proposal.

Answer 9

Definitely!

Answer 10

Oh yes. I think we should. I am tired of seeing young mothers getting pregnant just so they can get welfare. 2 years tops. During that time, they are to receive job training and get a job.