Is anyone interestered in defying the no smoking ban in England next year by smoking in pubs clubs etc Americe

Question

Americans who are prepared to travel here are particularly welcome and can probably sort them out with free accomodation

I am a non-smoker who hates civil rights infringemen-Ill buy you all a cigarette but cant quite run to a cigar - {which Ill be smoking}

Answer 1

thats really selfish, the smoking ban has been in Ireland for a few years now, and as a smoker myself have gotten used to it. I have consideration for people around me who don't smoke and who don't want passive smoke. It's not a hard thing to do, you'll adjust to it quite easily, plus you'll smoke less as you won't want to go outside so much, and when you do go outside you'll end up meeting new people and having a laugh!! We have a good laugh at our local....i wish you good luck with it, it's a positive thing, not negative

Answer 2

Don't be ridiculous. I'm Irish and we've had the smoking ban for a couple of years - it's incredible the difference it has made to this country. Not only do we not have to suffer smoky air when we go out for a drink (I was unable to go to pubs before, because I literally couldn't see or breathe after about 5 minutes) but the following day, your clothes don't stink, your hair doesn't stink, and you don't feel like you've swallowed a scouring pad. Plus the health benefits it brings to people who work in pubs/restaurants/nightclubs etc are incalculable. It's not as if people can't smoke - there are smoking areas everywhere to facilitate smokers - but it makes life easier for everyone. People who say they're going to defy the ban because of 'human rights infringement' or 'nanny-state politics' or whatever really make me crazy. It's stupid to oppose something on principle when it's demonstrated that it helps a lot of people, and doesn't really put anybody out. The ban took off in Ireland, it has been really popular and I'm sure the same thing will happen wherever it's introduced.

Answer 3

What's the point? Who will notice? More to the point as anon-smoker I have spent years not having the choice about being able to go out and socialise without getting lungs full of smoke and my hair and clothes stinking. My rights and my choices didn't count then. I think people should be allowed if to smoke if they want to - but they should not be allowed to affect people around them who don't want to breathe in smoke. I do think smoking rooms should be allowed and that a complete ban is a bit unfair, but at the same time smoking is unhealthy and the sooner people think of it as an antisocial rather than a social activity the better.

Answer 4

People keep banging on about how successful it was in Ireland but since being introduced in Scotland there has been some unexpected consequences.

1. Cigatette sales actually went up
2. Traffic Wardens and other workers are being verbally abused by crowds standing outside the pubs smoking.
3. Cigarette butts litter every street
4. Pub and restaurant takings are down
5. Attendances to gigs, bingo halls, etc, are also down
6. People are afraid to walk past crowds standing outside pubs smoking
7. Staff have lost jobs due to downturn in profits

And thats before they take stock of the effect over the first winter.

Answer 5

As a smoker myself, I find it strange that this Nanny state can't learn lessons from 100 years ago. Back then Pubs had Smoking rooms. Petition for a return of these in all public and commercial buildings and then smokers and non-smokers won't have anything to complain about. At the moment, we as smokers pay Gordon Brown something like 80% of the cost per packet, and yet in June next year, we are going to be made out like criminals. 80% !!! and you may wonder why they don't just ban the sale of tobacco. Oh yeah they'd loose an absolute stack of cash each year. Get on to FORESTonline.org and even liberty-human-rights.org.uk (especially these and they campaigned so hard for these reforms - that are now infringing yours and my humanrights) to campaign for smoking rooms!!

Answer 6

I think the smoking ban is a good idea, my feelings are the same about not giving children guns.

Answer 7

I can just see what will happen to some jobsworth security guard who tries to enforce a no smoking policy at a Death Metal or Punk gig. It will not be pretty.

Answer 8

What do you hope to gain - you will lose and the law will win, it always does, it has not made a major impact on Scotland so get on with it

Do you smoke - if YES fill your boots, get arrested and jailed, and guess what you can't smoke

Is it freedom of choice - If it is freedom of choice what about those who choose not to smoke, are they any less worthy

Answer 9

In the clubs I frequent, people who make trouble get dragged out back by the bouncers and stomped.

Answer 10

What is it about you smokers? Why this supreme, overweening arrogance in thinking you can just do it anywhere, in spite of everybody else?

Read some medical books.