In Genesis, God says, "Let us create man in our image." If this is a reference to the trinity, why is god talking to himself in the plural - the trinity is three in one, not three hanging out together.
In fact, it makes it seem like the trinity is an attempt to cover up what clearly seems to be polytheistic remnants in Genesis' narrative.
God does it again in Genesis 3:22
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us...
There is nothing in the account about angels and others existing yet- again, isn't this a remnant of polytheism?
Lastly, did you ever notice that Adam and Eve DID NOT get kicked out of Eden for eating the fruit? It plainly says they got kicked out lest they tried to become immortal. It says God had to guard the tree that could give immortality with a flaming sword. WHY would he need that?
Lastly, why does it say in Genesis that God would see the rainbow and then remember not to destroy everyone again? Why the need for a post-it note?
2006-10-26 00:35:07 · 21 answers · asked by cassandra 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Mythology & Folklore
But, PuertoQueen, it doesn't say the rainbow is a promise that god will never flood the earth again, it says god promised to never do it again and then says whenever he sees the rainbow, HE will remember his promise and not flood again. Why does HE need a reminder?
2006-10-26 01:01:38 · update #1
Where in Genesis does it say God made angels? Although there are clear differences between the two creation accounts in genesis one and two, i see no angels and such.
The church offers that as an explanation, but god is talking to a co-creator in the first example and to co-equals in the second example. Angels are less than God, no?
The explanations offered by the churches don't seem to cut it as good explanations and the text itself doesn't say it.
2006-10-26 01:50:06 · update #2
LADSMRT - i have been giving it some thought and you'd be interested to know, if you don't already, that these ancient first 5 books are imbued with tales and a philosophy from Egypt.
Moses was apparently known to be a priest for the Monotheistic Cult organized by the Pharaoh of his day! At some point, it is also known that that Pharaoh fell - perhaps the cause of the Exodus.
I don't know that Moses was Hebrew at all - I think this thing about his mom sticking him in a basket and floating him to the palace may be a cover for the fact that Moses was Egyptian. Joseph was married to the daughter of a Pharaoh and Egyptian iconography and dress in depicted in Isreal's ancient art, I've been reading in a book by the President of the Biblical Archeological Society of NY.
2006-10-26 04:31:52 · update #3
So are you saying Spludder that each of us creates reality with our thoughts? Then are each of us creating the same reality or are every person's thoughts a separate reality? Or is this just a game this God plays - if you believe I'm real, if you don't I'm not?
What is this interpretation of God or god based on? Marianne Williamson?
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Interestingly, the Egyptian creation myth, where eight Gods rise in succession and in their wake different aspects of reality come into being is mirrored completely, item for item, in Genesis. The Hebrew storytellers who wove together the two strains of origin tales just omitted the egyptian dieties and mentioned only the aspect of reality each diety is associated with. It's remarkable. The true origin of these myths is much more interesting than the stories we're told as children.
Like - read Genesis carefully and see why God says Adam and Eve are thrown out of the Garden of Eden. It's not for what you've always been told.
2006-11-02 00:32:07 · update #4
Why I can’t believe in the royal we, idea to Genesis 1:26 and 3:22,
If Jehovah talked with the royal we or us, etc, why did He only do it only 4-5 times.
Why didn’t He or doesn’t He continue to do to so through out the bible.
Why didn’t He use the royal we at Gen. 1:29, 30 only 3 verses later, or Gen. 2:18, Gen. 3:11, 15
and through out the rest of the bible? Why at Isa. 6:8, does Jehovah say “Whom shall I send”?
Job 38:4-7 shows that the angels were existing at the creation of man, so Jehovah wasn’t alone and had many spirit creatures to talk to.
Instead, which sounds more real and truthful, that Jehovah was talking to someone who is His Master Worker, His Firstborn Son, His Faithful Witness, who is His image, His exact representation, OR He was talking to Himself. (Prov. 8:30; Heb. 1:3; Col 1:15)
Bible scholar Donald E. Gowan said “There is no support in the O[ld] T[estament] for most of the proposed explanations: the royal ‘we,’ the deliberative ‘we,’ the plural of fullness, or an indication of a plurality of persons in the Godhead.
Why does the word Elohim according to Strong’s Cyclopaedia, when it applies to Jehovah means Supreme God, not Gods? Even when this word is applied to Moses (Ex. 4:16 & 7:1) it doesn’t mean that there are 3 Moses, it doesn’t even mean there are 2 Moses.
(Side point when Jesus said if you see me you see the Father, it is because he is the image of God, the exact representation of his Father. When you see an image in a mirror you are seeing a representation, not the actual person. Col 1:15)
(Side point, According to my college dictionary, begotten means “to be born”, to be born means “brought into life or being” when was Jesus brought into life, when he came to life as a baby? No, as Jehovah’s Firstborn of creation Col. 1:15; Rev 3:14)
2006-10-26 04:32:36 · answer #1 · answered by TeeM 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
There may be an ultimate Creator. It has been man's and humanities pursuit to "communicate" with the Creator or seek a response for man's many questions. All humans have sought this and have gone thru great lengths to "write" books from the Creator's point of view. Nobody knows the Creator's intentions. Man does explain away evil and disasters by using "spirits" as scapegoats. All normal humans have a part of the brain specially entrusted with the "godly" or "religious" idea. Wherever you are born, you hone your spiritual feelings and depths from the religion around you. Likewise, damage to that portion of the brain can exaserbate this "holy" feeling, "God is all around me" feeling, or, it can devoid that sense, and you loose at the same time, the "hope" and "faith" idea, and nothing has the possible religious slant to it anymore. (Strokes, Epilepsy) In a way, you loose that hope that you have daily of the mudanest thoughts as well.
The Bible, The Koran, and many other such religious books, are a feeble attempt of man to put "words" in the Creator's mouth and are thus IMPERFECT!
Read them all, but also understand the biological underpinnings!
2006-10-28 20:10:03 · answer #2 · answered by schnikey 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God, the Father, was not alone in Heaven. He had His son Jesus, His son Lucifer, and the Archangel Michael there with him. There were others there, to be sure, but in Angelic form. The idea of God alone while He created the universe is an old one, but the Bible tells us of the Trinity, which was always in place, but not as a cover-up attempt. Remember, also, that Genesis tell us that in the beginning was the Word. It is in the Word(s) where the universe and all in it came from. "Let there be light!" are the words God spoke to bring illumination to the universe.
We need to presuppose an Angelically populated heaven, yet it is spoken of in the Bible later, post-Genesis. God had Michael guard the Tree of Life with his famous flaming sword. The rainbow reminder is for us more than Him.
2006-10-26 08:57:17 · answer #3 · answered by The Mystic One 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
ignore all those crazy answers! Now,In Genesis, God says, "Let us create man in our image." this part you have to remember that God is an awesome God,he is letting you know he was not alone,the Holy Spirit was around with God and the son was within Him,He knows the future as well! And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us...because we look like God and Jesus since He know it all,you have to remember that Jesus the Son was alive before any of us and He was with God always!
God would see the rainbow and then remember not to destroy everyone again,the reason was that it rained for years and years and the earth was filled with water no plants no land no nothing and that was like a written statement to remind us that he will never let it rain again the way it had rained....... Hopefully i was of some help.....i could have gotten deeper into it,but,maybe another time!
2006-10-26 07:56:09 · answer #4 · answered by QUEEN K 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You may or not know this but God had other to talk to before man Was created Called angels..... Now as for the trinity or triune which ever you choose to believe in can be a misinterpretation of man that still causes all types of confusion............. The true Facts that matters is that God, does exist and that is a fact mankind may or never accept. But their beliefs of God should never hinder us from accepting that truth...... Another thing mankinds is also a very selfish being that can not see beyond their own noses that someone like God is greater then they are, Because of their lust for weath and power. So it is up to people that reads what is left of our bible, After one of the Catholic Popes destroyed so many book and pages from the bible and still be able to obtain the truth of God's greatness........................
2006-10-26 08:08:59 · answer #5 · answered by kilroymaster 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
As for who God is talking to in modern day I'm pretty sure it is the guy walking down the street yelling "Iknow,Iknow". But biblically speaking the Trinity is 3 bodies. In Revelations There is the throne for The Father and one for The Son. As for the third "The Holy Spirit" That is up to some discussion. Some feel it is the spiritual mother of christ, un named so as to prevent her name from being used in vain. Others believe that it is the angelic horde/host who were created as a manifestation of the essence of god. And as a manifestation have equal form.
To not believe in a seperate Trinity would show Christ going insane on the cross asking his father "why hast thou forsaken me"? if not seperate than he would be talking to himself. And would need a big backside to need 2 thrones in Revelations.
2006-10-27 01:16:53 · answer #6 · answered by st nich 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I find it absolutely ludicrous that people inspect, dissect and examine every letter of the Old Testament. These folktales were old long before anyone imagined that the earth was round-- one thing they demonstrate is that mankind seems to have wondered about existential matters for ages, and that leaders of tribes and the intelligentia of the day had to put things in terms which could be grasped by the average person.
If you think about how dumb people are today on the average, what could the average Joe SixPack have been like a few thousand years ago!! I mean, the Egyptians and the Romans believed that humans (the Pharaohs and the Caesars) could graduate to godhood, or be appointed to it.
Think about it-- peoople created god in their image, not vice-versa. God, by it's very concept, cannot be fathomed by our 4 dimensional minds.
Lastly, since god is perfect, he/she has no needs-- he's got it all, so please tell me why god always seems to need money from his fanclub.
2006-10-26 09:56:48 · answer #7 · answered by ladsmrt 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
1. God "our father" was not talking to himself when it was said of him " let us create man in our image",. To understand clearly the magnitude of that conversation between "The Creators" you must literally analyze all component factors: a. God the Father [ male- positive energy, calm stationary, the first]
b. God the Holy Spirit [ Fe male, negative energy, , chaotic in motion ]
c. God the Son [ progeny, constant energy, after his kind, the last ]
Component factors to created Man:
a.Man the Father [male man, the giver, the first]
b.Man the Mother[wo man, the receiver, came from man]
c.Man the Son [ progeny, after his kind, the last]
2. Yes; the rainbow can be "in this age" interpreted as a "post-it-note" that may sign the ending of this age and the beginning of the next.
FYI: The note reads " water did not work; let use fire next time".
2006-10-26 09:24:28 · answer #8 · answered by mr.chrisrolle 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Relax. It's just a book. How do I know? Because God told me himself (in a voice that shook the fabric of existence) that I wouldn't find him there, or in any other book for that matter, and I can only assume the same is true for my brothers and sisters. It's like looking for the ocean in a drop of water. The good news is that he loves us and wants us to be happy.
2006-10-26 23:47:50 · answer #9 · answered by dirtypoolskater 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
because god is mentaly deranged adn has multiple personalities (three personalities if you believe the bible)
Lastly, why does it say in Genesis that God would see the rainbow and then remember not to destroy everyone again? Why the need for a post-it note?
well isnt god going to kill everyone again on judgement day?
there are many other unanswered questions espesialy in geneis, what no dinasaurs?
2006-10-26 07:50:09 · answer #10 · answered by exchange 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋