Do you believe God has always existed, or came INTO existence? and why?

Question

In Aquinas's proof of first cause, he claims that "something cannot come from nothing" and that the idea of a "first designer" is superior to that of infinite regress. So, did "existence" always exist and God came into it, or did God create existence? (classic "which came first chicken or egg" paradox)

Answer 1

God created existence.

Answer 2

This question presumes that some fantastical entity such as "god" actually exists. Really, now - presuming the existence of sometime more incredible than the universe itself is a bit of backward logic, don't you think?

And Aquinas has been superceded by science: in the quantum world (the real one, not the fake carnival variety talked about by newagers including Deepak Chopra) things really do happen for no reason at all. What the newagers don't get is that only very small things pop into existence and for very short times, then they disappear again. The average "vacuum energy" of space is preserved by all these things constantly coming and going, almost always at undetectable, subatomic scales of size and duration. We exist on a vastly larger scale where quantum effects are utterly undetectable except in carefully controlled laboratory conditions, so when the newagers say "anything can happen" they are only trumpeting their sad ignorance.

Quantum mechanics does not rule out very big and long-lasting effects from happening, however; it only says that events like that are extremely improbable - but not absolutely impossible. An event such as a "big bang" which creates an entire universe out of literally nothing is possible and even probable given a long enough time - and waiting "long enough" when nothing exists, neither matter, nor energy, nor space, nor time itself is no problem at all!

And to me, assuming that nothing can turn into something all by itself is much less of a paradox than that some super intelligence was always there, uncaused and unexplained.

Answer 3

God (the "Supra Eidolon" [Image]) has always existed. He (the Triune Godhead) predates the current Trans-Universal Superstructure, which is a "secondary degenerated universe" that I have identified as the "Platyoplaitium Universe", a transposed, or transformed, system from a former Paleo-Supraeoverse, which no longer exists. God created the initial Paleo-Supraeoverse that was perfect. We, our "pneumatic spirits" (what Moderns today call "souls"), were with God in the original system. This system underwent radical negative conversion when a "Proto-Monocontaminant" (Lucifer), precipitating a Great Rebellion of which we participated. We attempted to reverse the Divine Order of the Masculine Creator over the Feminine Creation producing defilement of the system. This corrupted condition forced God to auto-evacuate the system (Spontaneous Theocentric Expulsion), which caused a singularity event in the wake of His abortion of the system. The entire structure inverted into a conic structure through an egression, the "Metastatic Threshold," and subsequently flattened into the current secondary system and produced Time and entropy. Thus, the current Trans-Universal Structure is not the result of "Creation" but of "Chaos", and is a deteriorating system.

Answer 4

i decide for to have self belief that count continually existed in some type. Pre bigbang, it could have been in a unique factor, who's acquainted with, yet there is not any longer something scuffling with me from believing that it has continually been around. God on the different hand, has no evidence backing up his existence. Christians will often say that if there's a introduction, there must be a author. this would not artwork for me, via fact there are greater Galaxies in existence than grains of sand on the earth, so existence maximum possibly exists in some type someplace else, and a author isn't mandatory with fairly some galaxies, planets and stars obtainable for existence to have 'by threat' progressed. people who state the opportunities are against existence, do no longer truly carry close the imensity of the universe.

Answer 5

If you are religious God always has and always will exist which means he has always been around and one day decided to create reality as we know it... if you think he came into existance then something must have created him and that would be heretical to many Christians, not to mention even more Muslims and Jews. Since we assume that God has always existed, then he did not come from nothing which is nice because it does not break any laws of physics, although how he came up with all the matter and energy out there I can't imagine...

Answer 6

Do you not think that the improbability of something coming from nothing is many orders of magnitude less then this "first cause", god? The infinite regress is not stopped at god, since god himself needs explanation and evolutionary history. Read, " The God Delusion ", by Richard Dawkins and you see this arguments for god's existence are actually very weak.

Answer 7

Let's assume that God always existed. Let's say He existed as a powerful system or the potential of a powerful system. In essence, God is existence. What came from Him or of Him is a pure form of spontaneity. This is backed-up in the Big Bang Theory.
Aquinas is too mystified by his own thought process. And man's religion is too stiff to allow God to be anything other than what has been stuffed into theological law. God always was and always will be. God is the system and the power that allows us to be. You can take it from there in any direction in which you want to go.

Answer 8

I am speaking from the bias of a Christian in this regard, but I believe that God has always existed. Otherwise He would not be omnipotent because He would be bound to time since it was not something He created. Meaning He could not be God in the sense that I know Him. If He were not all powerful He would just be a demi-god or powerful spirit....which is basically an angel or the like. So I believe God must always have existed to be God in the way I believe about Him.

Answer 9

We know that the egg came first is a mutation from another species. In regards to God, either God invented man or man invented God. The real true is that when you find the truth is not really needed by you or anybody.

Answer 10

Aquina is obviously an idiot. Either something had to come from nothing, or there was always something, in which case where did this something that was always there come from? Its a question that we cant answer, and if we could, our feeble minds probably couldnt comprehend it, so it would be a mute point anyway. Where is this "Aquina," so I can punch her in her snot locker?!

Answer 11

Existence always exsisted but being unable to put it into words...man came up with God and the like.